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darren2586
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時間推噓37 推:40 噓:3 →:31

https://youtu.be/np5H_yP3L0M?t=5m40s

Ernie: Knicks will go home and try to close it out on Tuesday.
Meantime, crew chief David Guthrie says during live play it was judged that Josh Hart made a legal defensive play. After post-game review, we observed that Hart makes body contact that is more than marginal to Hardaway Jr., and a foul should have been called. Now again, we take a look.

Ernie: 尼克隊將回到主場,試圖在星期二結束系列賽。
同時,裁判長David Guthrie表示,在比賽中判定Josh Hart的防守是合法的。但賽後回放中,我們發現Hart與Hardaway Jr.有明顯的身體接觸,應該吹判犯規。我們再來看一次。

Barkley: They just blew it, plain and simple. Nothing to think about. They justblew it. My question to you, Ernie—
Hypothetical.

Barkley: 他們就是搞砸了,很簡單,沒什麼好想的。他們就是搞砸了。我有個問題要問你,Ernie——
一個假設性的問題。如果Pistons有挑戰權,如果那個球可以挑戰——

Ernie: No, there wasn’t a whistle.
Ernie: 不,那球沒有哨音。

Barkley: Okay, good call. I just—that’s why I’m asking.
Barkley: 好,合理。我就是想確認一下。

Kenny: Well, that’s my thing. I have a question for both of you and Shaq, because I know both of you guys do not like the fact that the NBA comes out and doesthat. I’m just saying, okay, this play happens, and there’s no memo from the NBA. What would you like the NBA to do?
Kenny: 那就是我的問題。我想問你們兩位還有Shaq,因為我知道你們不喜歡NBA賽後出來這樣發聲明。我的意思是,假設這個判決發生了,但NBA沒有出任何聲明,你們會希望NBA怎麼做?

Shaq: Nothing. There’s nothing that can be done, Kenny.
Shaq: 什麼都不用做,Kenny,沒什麼可以做的。

Kenny: Just let it sit?
Kenny: 就這樣放著不管?

Shaq: The game’s over. It doesn’t matter what you say. The game’s over.
Shaq: 比賽已經結束了。你說什麼都沒用了,結束了。

Kenny: You wouldn’t want anything to say?
Kenny: 你不希望說點什麼?

Shaq: No. The game is over, doesn’t matter.
Shaq: 不,沒意義,已經結束了。

Kenny: So you don’t think that if we were sitting here and there was nothing that said that, we would be challenging it and we’d be like, “What does the league say about this?”
Kenny: 所以你不覺得,如果我們現在坐在這裡,聯盟沒有發任何聲明,我們會一直追問「聯盟怎麼看這個判罰」嗎?

Shaq: Well, they said it.
Shaq: 他們現在已經說了。

Kenny: No, I’m saying, what would you like to happen if they—
Kenny: 不,我是問,如果聯盟什麼都沒說,你希望怎樣?

Barkley: I don’t think there’s anything. Because all you did was hang them out to dry. That’s all you did.
Barkley: 我覺得沒有必要。因為你發聲明只是把裁判推上火線,讓他們背鍋而已。

Kenny: So you would like nothing to be said, no matter what happens?
Kenny: 所以無論發生什麼事,你都希望聯盟什麼都不說?

Barkley: What is the purpose of what they put out today? I’m just asking you aquestion.
Barkley: 我就問問,你覺得他們今天發聲明的意義是什麼?

Kenny: Well, for me, what I think is—because if the play was the other way, we’re going to hear what the league thinks. So if they would say, “No, he actually did not get fouled because Tim Hardaway jumped into him,” and the rule is—because there are rules that change all the time. The rule is, when I remember when Reggie Miller used to not get called or kicking his leg out, the new rule now states if Reggie puts his leg out, it’s an offensive foul. So all of a sudden you have clarity. But what would you like to happen in this instance that’s so controversial?
Kenny: 對我來說,如果判決是相反的,聯盟還是會出來表態。所以,如果他們說「其實Tim Hardaway是自己跳進去的,沒有犯規」,那這就是規則,而且規則一直在改。就像以前Reggie Miller踢腿不會被吹,現在新規則說踢腿是進攻犯規。但這次這麼有爭議,你希望聯盟怎麼做?

Barkley: Because nothing gonna happen.
Barkley: 因為什麼都不會改變。

Kenny: So just be quiet?
Kenny: 所以乾脆保持沉默?

Ernie: You know what I’d like to see?
I’d like to see another voice coming out of Secaucus that says, “Hey, that’s
a game-deciding play. I’ve looked at it, and it’s a foul.”
Ernie: 你知道我希望怎樣嗎?我希望有來自Secaucus(NBA總部回放中心)另一個聲音出來說:「嘿,這個球決定了比賽,我看過了,這是犯規。」

Kenny: That’s what they did!
Kenny: 他們不是已經這麼做了嗎!

Ernie: AFTER the game! I’m saying, after it happens, before you say the game is over, you say, “Hey, hey, hey, hey.” You’ve got somebody else who is sitting there in New York who says, “Hey, this game can’t end this way. There was contact. There was a foul. Let’s pick it up right there.”
Ernie: 是比賽後才說啊!我意思是比賽當下,在宣布比賽結束前,有人在紐約說:「等一下,等一下!這球有身體接觸,有犯規,不能這樣結束,從那個時間點繼續比賽。」

Kenny: If there’s no whistle, how can you make that call?
Kenny: 可是如果沒有哨音,你怎麼能直接做出這個判決?

Ernie: That’s where your voice comes in.
Ernie: 這就是需要另一個聲音介入的地方。

Kenny: Actually, goaltending—the last shot—so it doesn’t—
Kenny: 其實,像最後一球如果是干擾球判定——

Ernie: Yeah, well fine. I would like an “eye in the sky.” Call it whatever you want. I want somebody to say, “You know what? The game can’t end like that.”Ernie: 對啊。所以我希望要有一個「天眼」,隨便你叫什麼都行,只要有人可以說:「比賽不能這樣結束。」

Barkley: And it’s very rare that one play decides wins and losses. That play decided wins and losses. Like, I say a turnover—like, he didn’t mean to turn that ball over—or a missed free throw, that stuff happens.
Barkley: 通常一個回合不會決定勝負,但這球真的決定了勝負。失誤、罰球不中這些是意外,但這球不是。

Kenny: How far do you go with it? If a guy stepped out of bounds as he was driving? You know what? Like the other night—
Kenny: 可是這樣範圍要劃到多大?如果有人切入時踩線呢?就像前幾天——

Ernie: If it’s a game-deciding play—If it’s a game-deciding play, last few seconds, you’ve got to get that right. You can’t come out after the game and say, “Oh, we screwed that up. Sorry.”
Ernie: 如果是決定勝負的球——如果是最後幾秒的球,你就必須吹對,不能賽後才說:「喔,我們搞砸了,抱歉。」

Barkley: 100%, Ernie. When it decides the game, it can’t decide the game. A mistake can never decide the game.
Barkley: 沒錯,Ernie。當這球決定比賽時,就不能容許錯誤。錯誤絕不能決定比賽結果

Shaq: Not only that, it might decide the whole series.
Shaq: 不只是比賽,這可能影響整個系列賽。

Barkley: It decided the whole series. More than likely. Because listen, 2–2 istotally different than 3–1. Totally different.
Barkley: 它已經決定了整個系列賽。2比2跟3比1完全不一樣,完全不同。

Kenny: I think—just my opinion—I would think that if a whistle was blown, then the “eye in the sky” could come in. But the “eye in the sky” coming back fo
r random plays across 820 games throughout the regular season and playoffs is just too much to ask.
Kenny: 我覺得——只是我的看法——如果場上有吹哨,「天眼」可以介入。但如果要在常
規賽和季後賽820場比賽裡的每一個隨機回合都要求介入這樣的細節,那就太難了。

Ernie: I just think you got to get it right.
Ernie: 我只覺得,該吹對的球就要吹對。


賽後的裁判報告真的是沒比賽,以這球而言活塞真的是被偷了一場,從2-2變成1-3落後

最後放個糖糖讚

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kevenchia 04/28 16:06讚讚人

smallthree3304/28 16:08準備走向AI執法了嗎?

nsbgm 04/28 16:10The game is over .

freezeraven 04/28 16:10"承認錯誤但沒有任何罰則,我們下次還是會吹錯"

nnkj 04/28 16:12不是吹錯 是操縱 歐尼爾有兩冠就黑黑的

Beltran 04/28 16:13這有改進空間吧 看怎麼改規則

ayubabbit 04/28 16:13他們的道歉一直都很沒有誠意

sa13961387 04/28 16:15先看賠率

f92174 04/28 16:15要不是灰狼還有挑戰 今天也差點被陰了一場

Beltran 04/28 16:16如果發生在總冠搶7 直接差一冠

lianhua 04/28 16:16就關鍵球可能要有更嚴謹的判罰規則吧

rasheedchiu 04/28 16:21活塞真衰 連續兩場都被搞

LoMing1021 04/28 16:21所以裁判報告的意義是什麼? 喔我錯了 但沒差 反正

LoMing1021 04/28 16:22比賽也結束了 跟放屁一樣

demonh311 04/28 16:22吹錯就記點,超過幾點就免職

supermni 04/28 16:26季後賽限定只再第四節搞天眼我覺得不錯,活塞真的地

supermni 04/28 16:27獄倒楣鬼...而且若挑戰用掉就沒有第三方監察者來審

supermni 04/28 16:29視比賽公平與否,莫名掉入淘汰邊緣士氣也跟著崩盤。

sunnyyoung 04/28 16:33天眼限定第四節最後五分鐘開啟 並擁有主動喊停審視

sunnyyoung 04/28 16:33權 不過官方絕對不會導入這些機制

freezeraven 04/28 16:35那樣裁判會更不敢吹,到時候剩下5分鐘就變WWE

darren2586 04/28 16:36這部分的規則真的很難界定

onepiecefan 04/28 16:37就跟歐肥講的一樣 都結束了 講再多都沒意義 過去不

onepiecefan 04/28 16:37是沒有過未來也一定還會發生

onepiecefan 04/28 16:38就算最後兩分鐘規則稍微有比較特別那又如何

k7202001 04/28 16:42看了重播 只能說CC自己該投進的

ClownT 04/28 16:47今天還很多人說什麼「尺度就這樣」「這種球通常不會

ClownT 04/28 16:47吹」活塞球迷當然很無奈

c27932589 04/28 16:50犯規沒吹輸了 然後問就是你上一波該投進的

tco 04/28 16:51今天剩9.5秒,灰狼114-113,也差點被搞掉

mirac1e 04/28 16:56籃球這種運動 裁判的權力太大

mirac1e 04/28 16:56而且很多犯規都是自由心證

mirac1e 04/28 16:56真要搞掉一場比賽太容易了

darren2586 04/28 16:57就那一句話,「該吹對的要吹對」,輸贏都一樣

ILLwill 04/28 17:04籃球灰色地帶很多,未來可能真的需要AI輔助

chenghow 04/28 17:07籃球就是灰色地帶太多,AI輔助只是怕比賽很零碎!

ding810908 04/28 17:12糖糖讚

GarrettLin 04/28 17:12NBA有大城市球隊才是收視率保證,阿銀要活塞你乖乖

dog29635841 04/28 17:20要不是被裁犬搞 現在3-1領先的是活塞

Byourself 04/28 17:43回場不吹,打手不吹,連被誇張的黑兩場zzzz

KKyosuke 04/28 17:44犯規沒吹是不能挑戰的 所以Ernie才會強調沒哨音

camby909 04/28 17:46可以看啊,那整個play都該看,前面搶籃板活塞就犯規

camby909 04/28 17:46了,拖把直接拉手,吹了根本就沒後面這件事情

camby909 04/28 17:46https://reurl.cc/QYYzQo

camby909 04/28 17:47而且什麼3-1,那個回場吹了投進也不過延長賽,這場

knicks8888 04/28 17:47L2M不是就說沒有回場了嗎

camby909 04/28 17:47有看Live的根本都說裁判整場都不太吹好嗎?

knicks8888 04/28 17:49反而是Duren發邊線球移動沒吹

knicks8888 04/28 17:49歐肥難道不是Horry零秒出手的收益者嗎

knicks8888 04/28 17:51我是覺得這種close game 你應該去想一下你是不是有

knicks8888 04/28 17:52機會贏球 德軟那個抄球不要給小哈自己上不就兩分了

ohsho62 04/28 17:59基本也是二輪遊,先發每場操42分鐘,也走不遠

ggsize123 04/28 18:16關鍵時刻,replay center應該要有像足球一樣介入v

ggsize123 04/28 18:16ar的權力

GimmeTempo 04/28 18:43太苦了 不過承認錯誤是未來改進的第一步

ghostxx 04/28 19:02至少比照挑戰,有個要求回放中心參審的使用權

limitlesscit04/28 19:05轉上一季本來可以止敗也被尼克黑去

xyz40273xyz 04/28 19:09商業聯盟當然是讓紐約過

cmpunk566 04/28 19:17是時候鷹眼執法了網球都引進了籃球還在抗拒

deadliness 04/28 19:23這個拉手的確犯規,應該給活塞一個技術犯規

stocktonty 04/28 19:36怎麼好像在鬼打牆 比賽本來就這樣 又不可能回朔

stocktonty 04/28 19:36古往今來漏吹的關鍵PLAY難道還少了嗎

GordnHayward04/28 19:44其實真的沒什麼辦法 比賽結束就是結束了

peihome 04/28 21:18但是這場比賽整場的尺度就是這樣,沒吹也沒什麼問題

jackjoke200704/28 21:24TNT四老輩份夠+待退 愛怎麼講怎麼講 全是中肯話

liuman 04/28 21:30AI執法是遲早的事

yugowolf 04/28 23:40他說了 這球連響哨都沒有 有挑戰也沒用 根本無法挑

yugowolf 04/28 23:41戰 何來什麼改變戰局的可能性

yugowolf 04/28 23:43灰狼的比賽是球有出界 可挑戰 挑戰看到出界前LBJ

yugowolf 04/28 23:44有犯規 給華子罰球

deadair 04/29 00:23連續兩場都被搞啊 上一場說規則回線就算了 這一場

deadair 04/29 00:23這麼明顯的犯規 很難接受

surfingbboy 04/29 03:33這主裁判也是魔賽G3裁判 那一場超黑

louis2323 04/29 11:23有衝突才會看回放的聯盟