Re: [閒聊] MQA事件 soulnote設計師看法
: 推 Oswyn: RME Audio 論壇大概四五年前就有人在問會不會支援 MQA 04/10 15:14: → Oswyn: Co-Founder: 在可預見的未來 RME 設備都不會支援 MQA 04/10 15:14: → Oswyn: 還是一直有人問,Co-Founder 就說有別的論壇可以討論 MQA 04/10 15:15: → Oswyn: 最後就把這篇給鎖了XD 04/10 15:15
我回去找了下這篇
截幾個 Co-Founder Matthias Carstens (MC、Administrator)的回應
2019-01-21 03:16:45 #4 Re: MQA is it possible?
MC Administrator
RME units will not support MQA for the forseeable future.
2021-03-06 05:19:23 #33
nickchop wrote:
Also, im not sure how you can concluded that the MQA process is just
dithering. The major sonic benefit is achieved by using information about theencoding process to correct time domain errors. MQA claims--and here is whereit's closed nature is frustrating--DSD-like transients and nearly perfect
impulse response performance.
MC Administrator
That is marketing BS and has been debunked several times on the web. It
mainly comes down to using an insufficient / slow reconstruction filter on
the DAC side.
2021-03-06 09:38:35 #36
nickchop wrote:
Playback on a non-MQA DAC is definitely not 13 bit. That's just flatly false..
MC Administrator
True, there seems to be something missing or wrong in the quote. The 13 bits
statement is correct with MQA CDs, so this is not a simple typo or error.
And to answer your question: no change on our side, means no direct MQA
support.
2021-03-07 05:37:57 #40
KaiS wrote:
Whatever good or bad MQA is, isn’t it decoded to PCM in the host software
anyway - at least here it is.
No need for MQA support in the hardware as far as I see.
MC Administrator
That is somehow true. One can do all the decoding and unfolding in software.
By upsampling MQA can use the desired DAC (reconstruction) filter in the
software domain, and the real DAC's filter is out of the way because now
doing nothing relevant anymore (at 96 kHz or up). Or set it to Off (NOS)...
2021-03-09 07:28:18 #56
MC Administrator
To all: Can we stop this useless discussion, please? There are other forums
for this kind of stuff, and the main question has been answered. Thanks.
這是業界(良心)人士多年前的回應
所以都是營銷 BS,而且早就在網路上多次被揭穿(但還是很多人情義相挺)
解碼跟展開全都可以在軟體中完成(所以硬要塞在晶片全都是為了[請自行填入])
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看看 MFI 就知道了......那根本就是 OO
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搞新玩具就是為了$$$$還是$$$
錢程XD
死死好
marketing BS XDDD
B..B...British Standard てす XD
Marketing BS是什麼意思?
bullshit的意思
butt se...
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蛇油
一直以來都有質疑MQA Render不一定要在DAC裡做,Unfold本來
就是純軟體面的事,只能說DAC要做MQA Render相對簡單,也是
為什麼MQA推廣初期一堆平價DAC靠韌體升級就可以有MQA Render
的功能,而MQA吃相比較難看的主要是要花錢的認證,不管是音
樂製作端或播放軟硬體端
商業取向太誇張的手段,到現在才垮台也是一絕
行銷充滿誤導跟詐●,老實一點不好嗎 吃相又太難看 明明可以一次解決(Software)但只給半殘核心 連硬體都要拆兩種,搞了一堆名詞跟燈號 說真的只賺音源那邊的授權不夠香嗎,非要兩頭賺
綁IC的好處是容易算到數量然後拿授權費,這在其他業界很常
見的手法。
但發燒業界本來就不太有量,合約限制還一堆 變成逼 HW 廠 all or nothing 選邊站 所以現在倒了,要是不強插手到硬體我猜資金不會這麼容易燒光
※ 編輯: Oswyn (114.36.210.72 臺灣), 04/10/2023 21:08:26乖乖只讓軟體解就好,偏偏還要再硬體扒一層。重點
是又不是真的比較好聽或真無損
MQA最近好像虧損很嚴重的樣子
看來是家行銷牛糞的公司,倒了也好(?)
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Re: [情報] MQA出大事了,即將進入重組和監管最近在找end game DAC,看到MQA這事件,剛好讓我想起看到的文章,連結如下 內文有提到MSB的MQA解碼有兩組通道, 一組給非MQA數位訊號,另一個給有MQA解碼用的 這是為了給沒MQA數位訊號不受MQA所汙染。7
[心得] FiiO BTR5 MQA版BTR5 2021年的改版,從ESS9218改 為9219 耳機是Grado SR225e 搭配起來音場開闊非常多,而且 SR225e是開放式,所以聽起來聲音5
[閒聊] Android輸出MQA方法之前買了ifi 的hip dac,可是在android手機上一直無法輸出MQA,去查了一下資料,因 為android的架構,你在TIDAL看到的是android音效輸出裝置,若要直接輸出到DAC需要UA PP這個APP ,可是他要錢啊,就沒下手,今天還是忍不住下手了,本以為接下來就一切美好,可以聽3
[問題] DAC內建MQA解碼的歌詩德X16歌詩德最近推了台新機種X16, 用了2個ESS ES9068AS DAC晶片, 最大特色是DAC晶片內建MQA解碼能力, 可以直接處理光纖/數位訊號輸入解MQA, 跳脫以往只能USB輸入才能解MQA的限制。2
[討論] android不經過uapp 播mqa先上圖 因為想聽看看mqa就買了 hip dac 在等貨到的途中就順便連uapp 也先買了 也順順的聽了一個月後2
[問題] 一般DVD PLAYER 為何可以讀MQA ?沒有特別買CD PLYAER, 只用以前淘汰的Philips DVD player 想說用Coaxial 連到有DAC的擴大機 應該比一般DVD解碼能力強 聽著聽著很多CD自己也覺得還不錯 今天心血來潮放入 玉置浩二 的chocolate cosmo MQA-CD- 大家好 我以前的理解是要播MQA full decode (384khz) 要有一個core解第一層(例如roon core)然後再去DAC硬解二三層,來達到384khz 現在市面上號稱MQA full decoder的機器 有哪一台是可以不用架roon直接可以達到384khz的解碼的嗎?
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[閒聊] Tidal ‘HiFi’ is NOT losslessTLDR: Tidal ‘HiFi’ is not lossless. It just streams the MQA version of track s with some metadata removed to prevent most DACs from recognising it as MQA a nd limits streaming to 16 bit. A while ago I posted a video which discussed how MQA was not lossless, and add itionally, how there was actually no way to stream the lossless version of any