Re: [閒聊] 日本高中畢業工作跟國中畢業差這麼多?
這問題的關鍵其實就是
藍領薪資能夠拿多少
我們來看看美國的UPS司機
https://tinyurl.com/4r292jhj
Full-time delivery drivers
Full-time delivery drivers earn an average total compensation package of $145,000 per year, which includes $0 healthcare premiums, up to seven weeks of paid vacation, plus an average of 18 days off for holidays, sick leave and optiondays. UPS also contributes to a defined-benefit pension plan for each employee.
Local tractor-trailer drivers
Local tractor-trailer drivers, also known as feeder drivers, average $162,000per year in total compensation, which includes $0 healthcare premiums, up to
seven weeks of paid vacation, plus an average of 18 days off for holidays,
sick leave and option days. UPS also contributes to a defined-benefit pensionplan for each employee.
Long-haul team drivers
Long-haul team drivers average $172,000 per year in total compensation. UPS
pays top rate per mile after four years, nearly double the trucking industry
average. This pay is in addition to the same industry-leading healthcare, paid time off, vacation, holidays, sick leave and pension contributions as our
full-time delivery drivers.
在美國當貨運司機能拿這麼多錢,他們自然就沒有一定要念大學
前幾天美東罷工的碼頭工人薪資談好加薪62%
我們看看加薪之前的薪資 https://tinyurl.com/4ujuyyu8
前略…
Pay for longshoremen is based on their years of experience. Under the ILA's
former contract with USMX, which expired on Monday, starting pay for
dockworkers was $20 per hour. That rose to $24.75 per hour after two years onthe job and to $31.90 after three years, topping out at $39 for workers with
at least six years of service.
中略…
What's a typical annual salary?
That top-tier hourly wage of $39 amounts to just over $81,000 annually, but
dockworkers can make significantly more by taking on extra shifts. For example, according to a 2019-20 annual report from the Waterfront Commission of New
York Harbor, about one-third of local longshoremen made $200,000 or more a
year.
後略…
很明顯的
只要薪資福利給夠
就不需要學歷通膨卷死一堆人
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美國是高貴種族,不能比....
他們有真正的勞工工會
台灣人組工會還會被其他勞工酸
他們對於爭取自己的權利不遺餘力
薪資夠高又不太需要學歷,在某島好像剛好有個詐...
捲一卷發現沒比較賺,自然有人開始走別條路
或乾脆躺平得很徹底
台灣連颱風假都能GY了 期待罷工爭薪資還不如投胎比較
快==
所以老美造船業掰掉
外加不可能搞出TSMC的良率
那是美國人壓榨海外勞動力換來的
要不就想辦法去美國工作 和美國比不切實際 你有他拳頭大
嗎
說酸不太對吧,有些人就只是切換成管理者的角度,除非你十
年前後都在差不多的職級上,或者是因為行業別,沒有身份上
的切換
鄉民間紅過一陣子,被當作是東尼真人的馬斯克,他很崇尚中
國人的管理就是中國工廠二十四小時輪班,連住都在廠區內,
他在美國主要聘用有色員工,還是沒有加入工會的那種
到底是不是真勞權擁護者,甚至當你有對家中外勞的管理權,
看怎麼待她就知道了
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