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Jonathan Kuminga meets with Steve Kerr to quell festering Warriors issues: ‘I love it here’


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SAN FRANCISCO — In the aftermath of The Athletic’s report that Jonathan Kumi
nga had lost faith in Steve Kerr’s ability to maximize his potential, the Golden State Warriors’ head coach and third-year wing met in Kerr’s office befo
re Friday night’s 113-109 win over the Detroit Pistons.

在《The Athletic’s》報導說Jonathan Kuminga對於Steve Kerr能否最大化他的潛力失
去信心之後,金州勇士隊的主教練和這位第三年的前鋒在週五晚上對底特律活塞的比賽前在Kerr的辦公室會面,最終以113-109獲勝。


Kuminga’s latest frustration came a night earlier when he watched the final 18 minutes from the bench — and particularly the agonizing final six minutes
— as the Warriors let an 18-point lead over the Denver Nuggets slip away into another gut-punch lost.

Kuminga前一晚的挫折來自於他在板凳席上觀看最後18分鐘的比賽,尤其是令人痛苦的最後6分鐘,看著勇士隊讓18分的領先優勢滑落為對丹佛金塊的又一次沮喪的失利。


Kerr’s decision to limit Kuminga to 19 minutes and zero in the fourth quarter, despite 16 points prior and an obvious need for his downhill skill set, wasplaced under a harsh microscope. Kuminga’s boiling feelings surfaced to the public. Kerr felt a face-to-face conversation necessary. Speaking after the win over Detroit, Kuminga said the discussion had a positive impact.

儘管Kuminga在之前已得到16分,並且明顯需要他的突破技巧,Kerr仍決定將Kuminga的上場時間限制在19分鐘,且在第四節完全不上場。這一決策受到了嚴厲的檢視。Kuminga的怒火被公之於眾。Kerr認為面對面的交談是必要的。在對底特律的勝利後談話時,Kuminga表示這次討論產生了積極的影響。


“I think it went really well,” Kuminga said. “I think it was just all about
better understanding of each other. More communication. We don’t really get
to sit together as much and communicate about pretty much non-basketball things, basketball things. We don’t get to do that as much. Just us having that conversation today made me more comfortable that any time I have something to ask, I should just go up to his office. His door is open. Go up there and chilland wait for him to come back whenever. I think that’s what it’s all about,
communication every single time if something is going wrong. Communication isthe key.”

「我認為這次談話進行得非常好,」Kuminga說。「我認為這主要是關於彼此更好的理解。更多的溝通。我們不太有機會坐在一起談論非籃球的事情,籃球的事情。我們不太有機會這樣做。僅僅是我們今天有了這樣的對話,讓我更舒服,隨時有問題就去他的辦公室。他的門是開著的。上去坐著等他回來。我認為這就是關鍵,每當有問題時就要溝通。溝通是解決問題的關鍵。」


Kuminga played a season-high 36 minutes against the Pistons. He didn’t rest a single second in the fourth quarter. He had 11 points and six rebounds and spent the majority of crunchtime as the primary defender on Cade Cunningham. Itwas his 12th consecutive game in the starting lineup, but Kuminga is still yet to play 30-plus minutes in consecutive games in his career. So the playing-time tracker will continue to be monitored.

Kuminga在對活塞的比賽中出場了本季最高的36分鐘。他在第四節沒有休息一分一秒。他得到11分和6個籃板,並在大部分關鍵時刻作為對Cade Cunningham的主要防守者。這是他連續第12場比賽首發,但Kuminga的職業生涯中仍然沒有連續兩場比賽出場30分鐘以上。因此,上場時間的追踪將繼續被追蹤。


“I never complained about playing time (during the meeting),” Kuminga said.
“We were just talking about if I do great at something, just go back and remind him, ‘Yo, coach, what do I need to do to get better at this? What do I need to do to gain more trust or more minutes?’ Like I said, it’s more about co
mmunication and better understanding from both of us.”

「我在會議中從未抱怨過上場時間,」Kuminga說。「我們只是在談論如果我做得很好,就回去提醒他,”喂,教練,我需要做什麼來變得更好?我需要做什麼來獲得更多的信任或更多的上場時間?”就像我說的,這更多的是關於溝通和我們雙方更好的理解。」


Kuminga’s uneasiness about his fluctuating role — which dates to the previou
s postseason when he went from an integral part of the rotation the final twomonths of the regular season to a bench bystander after Andrew Wiggins returned from a long personal absence — has generated questions about his future with the Warriors. Does he want to be with them long-term? Will he still be on the roster past the Feb. 8 trade deadline? After Friday’s meeting, how does he
feel about his standing in the organization and with Kerr in general?

Kuminga對他波動的角色感到不安 — 這可以追溯到上一個賽季的季後賽,當時他從例行
賽最後兩個月成為陣容的重要一部分,到Andrew Wiggins從長時間的個人缺席回歸後變成了板凳大使 — 這引發了關於他與勇士未來的問題。他想長期留在這支球隊嗎?他會在2
月8日交易截止日期之後仍在隊中嗎?在週五的會議之後,他對自己在球隊中的地位和與Kerr的一般關係有何看法?


“I love it here,” Kuminga said. “I got drafted here. There’s always ups an
d downs. I feel like when you look at all the ups and downs, that will confuse a lot of people. But I know Steve believes in me. I know he trusts me at this point. It was just more about communication and better understanding. It wasn’t no beef. None of that. Scratch whatever happens. It’s the past. Move on w
ith better understanding and hoping we all can work with each other and help this team and leave everything in the past.”

「我很愛這裡,」Kuminga說。「我是在這裡被選中的。總會有起伏。我覺得當你看所有的起伏時,會讓很多人感到困惑。但我知道Steve相信我。我知道他此刻對我有信任。這更多的是關於溝通和更好的理解。這不是什麼爭吵。不是那些。忘掉發生的一切。這是過去的事。以更好的理解向前看,希望我們都能互相合作,幫助這個團隊,把一切都留在過去。」


What does that better understanding entail?

這種更好的理解包括什麼?


“All together a better understanding of certain things on the floor I need to do to get the team better,” Kuminga said. “Who is he going with tonight or
the next night? Who he trusts the most? As a coach, you talk about who you trust the most or who is producing things as a coach you want at the moment. So it was all about those little things. As we sat together and spoke about it, it went well.”

「更好地理解在場上需要做些什麼來使球隊變得更好的某些事情,」Kuminga說。「今晚或下一場比賽他會選誰?他最信任誰?作為教練,你談到你最信任的人,或者是在當時作為教練想要的產出。所以這都是關於這些小事情。當我們坐在一起談論這些時,一切進行得很順利。」


The crux of the problem is the Warriors’ inability to fit Kuminga and Wiggins on the floor together. Entering Friday, they were a cumulative minus-66 together as a pairing in 131 minutes. The Warriors have an analytics department that feeds the coaching staff these numbers, partly fueling their lineup choices. It’s why Kerr has maintained a hesitancy to play his two bigger wings together, calling them a “redundant” pairing.

問題的核心是勇士隊無法將Kuminga和Wiggins一起安排在場上。計至週五,他們同時在場上時,在131分鐘的正負值為-66。勇士隊有一個分析部門為教練團隊提供這些數據,部分推動他們的陣容選擇。這就是為什麼Kerr對於讓他的兩個較大的前鋒一起上場持謹慎態度,稱他們為「重複」的搭配。


But he tried to find time for them together against the Pistons. They were onthe floor for six minutes together. They outscored Detroit by seven points. But Wiggins struggled to a 1-of-5 shooting night and didn’t provide much else.
So he was limited to 19 minutes and Kuminga received 36.

但他嘗試在對活塞的比賽中讓他們一起上場。他們一起在場上6分鐘。他們以7分的優勢超過底特律。但Wiggins投籃5投1中,沒有提供太多其他幫助。因此他被限制在19分鐘,而Kuminga獲得了36分鐘。


“I’m gonna keep it real,” Kuminga said. “I went to Coach and talked about
me playing with Wiggs. I don’t want it to seem like me and Wiggs are out here fighting every day for minutes. I know Wiggs come to work every day not thinking about that. Same with me. I don’t come to work every day thinking about taking Wiggs’ minutes, taking this guy’s minutes. We come here to play good a
nd help the team win and accomplish things that we all as a team are about. Championship and all that. Whenever the team win, everybody win. Just moving forward, it’s really all about what the team needs first and concerned about the rest after.”

「我要保持真實,」Kuminga說。「我去找教練談論我和Wiggs一起打球。我不想讓人覺得我和Wiggs在這裡每天為了上場時間而爭鬥。我知道Wiggs每天都來工作,而不是在想這個。我也是,我每天來工作不是在想著拿走Wiggs的上場時間,也不是在想著搶走這個傢伙的上場時間。我們來這裡是為了打得好,幫助球隊贏球,實現我們整個團隊所追求的目標。冠軍等等。只要球隊贏了,每個人都贏了。所以向前看,這真的全都是關於球隊首先需要什麼,然後再關心其他事情。」


In the immediate future, more minutes are opening up in the Warriors’ rotation. Chris Paul fractured his left hand against the Pistons and will get surgery next week. He is out indefinitely. Kerr said that’ll give Brandin Podziemski, Cory Joseph and Moses Moody a bump in opportunity. But it could also creep open the door to experiment more with Kuminga and Wiggins lineups.

在不久的將來,更多的上場時間將在勇士隊的輪換中開放。Chris Paul在對活塞的比賽中左手骨折,將在下週進行手術。他無限期缺席。Kerr表示,這將給Brandin Podziemski、Cory Joseph和Moses Moody帶來更多機會。但這也可能為Kuminga和Wiggins的陣容組合打開一扇門。


Draymond Green’s impending return from his indefinite suspension will regenerate another logjam. But that’s another depth problem for another day.

Draymond Green即將從他的無限期停賽中歸來,將再次引發陣容擁擠問題。但那是未來某一天的另一個深度問題。


“I’ve been there before,” Curry said of Kuminga. “He’s not wrong for bein
g upset and pissed off, wanting to play. Probably should’ve played. Not probably. … But the ultimate challenge for anybody in this league is to not let the narrative be told for you and you not be able to address that with your ownvoice or directly with Coach or whatever the case is. We all go through our challenges. We all go through our learning lessons. Like I said, he’s not wrong for being upset and frustrated. I heard Coach talk about. He was kind of half-joking but serious about 15 years he was always upset with playing time. That’s a talking point in every locker room in some way, shape or form. There are ways to express it, ways to voice your opinion but protect the team. I’m just proud of the way he — we talked about it before the game. Go out and play.
Go hoop. Be a professional. And that’s what he did.”

「我以前也經歷過這種情況,」Curry說到Kuminga。「他對於生氣和沮喪,想要上場是沒有錯的。可能應該上場。不是可能… 但對於這個聯盟中的任何人來說,最終的挑戰是不
讓敘事為你所設定,而你不能用自己的聲音或直接與教練等方式來解決。我們都經歷過我們的挑戰。我們都經歷過我們的學習課程。就像我說的,他對於生氣和沮喪是沒有錯的。我聽到教練談到了。他有點開玩笑但又是認真的,說他15年來總是對上場時間不滿。這在每個更衣室都是某種方式的話題。有表達它的方法,有發表你的意見的方式,但要保護球隊。我只是為他的方式感到驕傲 — 我們在賽前談過。出去打球。去打籃球。做一名專業人士。這就是他所做的。」



https://theathletic.com/5182703/2024/01/06/jonathan-kuminga-steve-kerr-meet/



我是很懷疑Kerr會不會說到做到啦 大家覺得呢

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abc20200001/06 18:48他們都這樣說我們也只能相信了啊 Kuminga不會沒理由說

abc20200001/06 18:48出這些話吧

Mikotosama01/06 18:50Moody是不是也要去辦公室一趟

malain01/06 18:53圍巾:搶時間?!要打你打啊沒事兒

SC30mvp01/06 18:55我保守看待 十場後再說

peter08080801/06 18:55嘴綠 K湯 圍巾 一定要讓出時間出來

insen00101/06 19:01Curry不要說幹話,說什麼保護球隊,你們這群老的就是專

insen00101/06 19:01門在做傷害球隊的事

kobebrian01/06 19:05咖哩到底在供三小

kobebrian01/06 19:06被揍的是新人 被冰的是新人 新人們也不是第一次 第二

kobebrian01/06 19:06次 第三次被無緣無故冰箱就放話 打得好的球員上場為自

kobebrian01/06 19:06己的合約拼鬥天經地義

kobebrian01/06 19:08如果內部討論沒有辦法解決 那只能尋求外部途徑不是嗎

jack3403101/06 19:12咖哩是幹話大師嗎

EQUP01/06 19:13我們就等著看後續 苦命別被PUA了哈

PIPPP401/06 19:13呃,是翻譯的問題嗎?

Sc30Fmvp01/06 19:17阿明也不是不能跟追夢KT圍巾一起上吧? 現在問題是圍巾阿

xiao0701/06 19:17JK真的成熟 長大了 20初頭歲就要跟這些超巨同隊競爭 不簡

xiao0701/06 19:17單 老將就是 保護球隊性的發言 他對外也只能這樣講 希望

xiao0701/06 19:17對內能真的多幫忙支持菜鳥

rig212101/06 19:18圍巾也算被砍很多時間了吧…

xiao0701/06 19:18畢竟他也是菜鳥過來 之前已經走了一個有潛力的小朋友 勇士

xiao0701/06 19:18經不起接二連三的失去新血

kaede071101/06 19:19其實正面解讀球員跟教練有溝通是好事啦 陣容規劃就是

kaede071101/06 19:19制服組的工作了

xiao0701/06 19:19不過真的連看十場再說 科學家的過往紀錄...打個問號先

rig212101/06 19:20咖哩講的話我覺得也還好啊,當初他和Ellis爭誰是核心也是

rig212101/06 19:20靠表現搶來的,看大家這麼不爽老將乾脆把咖哩也交易直接

rig212101/06 19:20重建,但這樣會比較好嗎?

killuaz01/06 19:22Kerr發動相信我之術,結束這一回合

EQUP01/06 19:24咖哩當然是靠表現搶來 問題是現在苦命靠表現搶不來XD

kobebrian01/06 19:25咖哩新秀賽季時間就很多了 他是很猛但沒經歷過沒上場

kobebrian01/06 19:25時間這件事吧

rig212101/06 19:29咖哩那時是沒有人,有一場還六犯都要上,所以我才說乾脆

rig212101/06 19:29全部老將都賣掉直接重建這樣也不用吵上場時間了

killuaz01/06 19:30咖哩對外還是只能場面話啦!他這樣講也很得體了,就是呼

killuaz01/06 19:30籲菜鳥不能騎到教練頭上也沒錯,也是希望阿嘎雖然沒有錯

killuaz01/06 19:30,也別對教練施壓得太過火,以前有Jordan Bell的經歷了

a03450661801/06 19:33苦命不凶一點對外發言,就是像moody一樣,被冰到不會

a03450661801/06 19:33打球啊

onetooneya01/06 19:33我有點意外阿家今天願意這樣給面子

onetooneya01/06 19:33他這樣講這樣之後不管怎麼操作都比較好

Sc30Fmvp01/06 19:34其實本來他就只是疑惑自己要怎樣才能更多上場時間吧

onetooneya01/06 19:35不過Moody真的可憐

inuyaksa01/06 19:36剃頭某種程度上就是有覺悟了吧,Kerr要不要也抓去剃一下

inuyaksa01/06 19:36我保證不會笑太大聲

candbilly15301/06 19:38官腔啦反正難聽的真心話讓記者放出就可以,本人當然

candbilly15301/06 19:39還是說些好聽的話

killuaz01/06 19:39阿嘎算是豁出去了,要嘛拿到時間,要嘛被交易,都比被冰

killuaz01/06 19:39到沒機會好

killuaz01/06 19:41不過放話後很容易被放大鏡檢視,他接下來可不能恍神打爛

killuaz01/06 19:41

monk201/06 19:41家人代替喊催密有違規嗎?

samuel033001/06 19:45先看十場再討論,結束這回合

Sc30Fmvp01/06 19:45沒有吧 再說前一場柯爾調度就是有問題啊

Sc30Fmvp01/06 19:49如果真的考慮交易 籃網那堆側翼是不是也有考慮要賣掉阿

balire235101/06 19:51說實在 苦命的單防還有很大進步空間

jumilin92701/06 19:53讚讚讚 希望還是有轉機!

Erishcross01/06 19:56木笛是在辦公室外面看他們開會嗎

candbilly15301/06 19:57籃網那邊一樣CP24包的話再加個Cojo薪資可以換Dinwid

candbilly15301/06 19:57die+C.Johnson

wusky198201/06 19:58苦命真的防守要再好一點 比起去年 退步很多

kobebrian01/06 20:03還好吧 他DEPM 聯盟 PR80附近

Max716901/06 20:06反正之後大概率交易 小問題 而且現在在高點 多的是隊伍要

Max716901/06 20:07 可以跟嘴綠包一起

Broyz01/06 20:07ok 解散解散

alain01/06 20:08其實我覺得Kerr一直都是傳統老派的那種溝通方式,就像之前

alain01/06 20:08常拿出來講的,他贏得Jordan尊重的原因是他敢正面跟Jorda

alain01/06 20:08n「溝通」,但他當時也不會對外爆料被打,因為要保護球隊

alain01/06 20:08和隊友。從這裡就可以看得出他的確可以比較偏好自家人在自

alain01/06 20:08己家有話直說

a03450661801/06 20:10如果要把苦命交易,怎麼可能把嘴綠交易掉,交易年輕

a03450661801/06 20:10人就代表老人要一起打到生涯結束了吧

guardian12801/06 21:00咖哩講的哪裡不對?對外講這樣的話很得體啊

guardian12801/06 21:02至少我是看不出咖哩在傷害球隊啦,都老將了每場拼成

guardian12801/06 21:02那樣還要被說傷害球隊,真是搞笑

kevenchia01/06 21:08支持714交易 趕快離開這怪裡怪氣的地方

kevenchia01/06 21:10老將也是在講幹話 出去打球勒 你這套行不通了就乖乖輔

kevenchia01/06 21:10佐新秀笑鼠

drcula01/06 21:15我是猜7+14都會交易,應該在交易大限之前就搞定,現在都是在

drcula01/06 21:16做場面,維持身價,然後甚至可能kt就順便續約完成

onionandy01/06 21:18交易年輕人老人一起打到結束那大概就是年年老化劇碼

onionandy01/06 21:19+kerr整天在那邊等待老人回春的中風劇情

onionandy01/06 21:21跟湖人打包小醬換AD不同 勇士雖然一樣有個超強老鬼

onionandy01/06 21:21但當初的湖人可沒有兩個老化佔先發的功勳仔

kevenchia01/06 21:22至少看714去別隊打球都比較開心 不然留在這還得被迫看

kevenchia01/06 21:22這爛內容有夠衰 虧14還跟著老將練球 沒想到老將還看不

kevenchia01/06 21:22出來真有夠沒料

onionandy01/06 21:22勇士打包年輕人就算換到明星 隊上的老化問題還是在啊

onionandy01/06 21:23而且那兩個就是非常明顯的進攻問題

stephen052201/06 21:24Kerr這季結束就走吧

stephen052201/06 21:24不想在看他了

drcula01/06 21:33進攻+防守都是問題,你先發五人,curry,kt,圍巾,green,魯尼

drcula01/06 21:34有進攻有防守嗎???進攻green+魯尼都可以被放,圍巾切入也不

drcula01/06 21:35行,只要鎖死curry,kt偶而爆發大概就是現在這樣

stephen052201/06 21:38Kerr在那邊噁心人

malain01/06 22:02老將那part我護航一下啦,連30都知道阿家抱怨的有道理,

malain01/06 22:02只是透過媒體比較不恰當,自家的事還得自家管,還記得嘴

malain01/06 22:02綠打普洱,有沒有很常聽到現役/退役的球員講嘴綠打普洱絕

malain01/06 22:02對是錯的,但這段影片不該被放出來?所以30這段話我是能

malain01/06 22:02理解他的想法,但阿家也沒有錯,現在這樣不上不下,沒一

malain01/06 22:02個人出來燒一燒根本不會動,一樣是死局,那乾脆弄一弄看

malain01/06 22:02要怎麼走也沒不好

jack3403101/06 22:27士官長:你各位有問題要逐級回報,不要打1985,不然我

jack3403101/06 22:27就讓你們08

candbilly15301/06 22:49內部溝通如果有效還需要靠記者放話,Kerr不是都說他

candbilly15301/06 22:49跟Moody常常在溝通啊人還不是被冰在板凳

hiro122101/06 23:01是說有人跟圍巾搭是+的嗎?

OrniG01/06 23:32上次好像有板友統計過,幾乎都是負的,因為圍巾實在太爛

candbilly15301/06 23:50目前Wiggins的NetRtg跟TJD搭是+2.4、Podz是+0.9剩下

candbilly15301/06 23:50就全都是負的,搭Curry則是-7.9

otaku69001/07 02:36圍巾看他進球都要歡呼 龍吐看天吃飯 攻框屢屢刷框

stocktonty01/07 06:48圍巾跟魯尼這季真的莫名斷崖式退化

iecdalu01/07 10:08居然有人叫柯瑞輔佐新秀,笑死

guardian12801/07 11:00叫咖哩輔佐新秀真的有夠好笑,叫球隊第一人去輔佐新

guardian12801/07 11:00秀真的問號,以為咖哩待退了喔?

wusky198201/07 13:05威金 攻框真的鳥到爆 都已經接近框了 經常都彈出來

candbilly15301/07 13:06https://i.imgur.com/ZgH8j5l.jpg

kevenchia01/07 17:51表現看起來就是待退啊~沒714搞不好現在還上不來C10呢

kevenchia01/07 17:51帶隊穩定C1011嘻嘻

kevenchia01/07 17:51https://i.imgur.com/xztQAoU.jpg

RedLiam01/07 18:00酸民就算了 樓上感覺有在看球都還看不懂 可憐哪

guardian12801/07 21:10真的,場均27.6分叫待退,連球都看不懂是真的可憐,

guardian12801/07 21:10有時間做圖不如去多看幾場球吧,笑鼠

stephen052201/07 21:15有人真的可憐

chaeyu9901/07 21:34直接拉黑了

kobebrian01/07 21:47故意要酸的吧?咖哩今年進階數據聯盟前10被說待退…兄

kobebrian01/07 21:47弟你標準太高惹

kevenchia01/07 22:23好氣好氣嘻嘻

kevenchia01/07 22:23人家當然看不懂><

kevenchia01/07 22:2527.6分=C10?有料……沒人要說今年失誤的部分嗎 更別說

kevenchia01/07 22:25非受迫性了 這些看球最懂的一定有看到……

enixsquare01/07 22:26反串?海巡?

OrniG01/07 22:28有人就是故意來挑釁的,直接黑單他不用浪費生命

guardian12801/07 22:32推樓上

kobebrian01/07 22:33你說的東西進階數據全部都能解釋…到底在嘰嘰歪歪啥

kobebrian01/07 22:33聯盟前十的進階數據是待退其他人全部退一退?

kevenchia01/07 22:34說出大實話就好 其實沒人在乎你們的黑單QQ

kevenchia01/07 22:35球隊老大能讓7了解勇士文化也是夠本了

guardian12801/07 22:39更沒人在乎你講的話吧XDDD 不在乎黑單的話還回覆幹

guardian12801/07 22:40嘛?乖乖閉上嘴也沒人會鳥你,偏偏一直出來拉黑,可

guardian12801/07 22:40憐XD

stephen052201/07 22:43g大好兇XD

guardian12801/07 22:50沒辦法,真的受不了這種硬凹的

kevenchia01/07 23:52你氣成這樣看起來很在乎啊 你喜歡看爛內容你慢慢看噗

kevenchia01/07 23:52沒人在乎我講的但是你氣到要黑單 邏輯有料XD XD XD

kevenchia01/07 23:54更何況號稱個性最好的老大難道還有分什麼事能做不能做

kevenchia01/07 23:54嗎 自助餐老大開起來==

ccccccccccc01/08 00:42C10還好吧 不是有一年得分王C8 你當初叫咖哩輔佐誰

ccccccccccc01/08 00:43說來聽聽

JL4601/08 02:21幾位板友暫息雷霆吧!為免討論過激刺激雙方...小的暫行鎖文~