Re: [外絮] Devin Booker:天賦打球終究有其上限
讓我們粗暴一點直接看on/off
書人
on:-1.0
off:-0.3
on-off:-0.7
KD
on:+0.2
off:-2.5
on-off:+2.7
Beal
on:-7.4
off:+4.5
on-off: “-11.9”
下面都是每百回合數據
這三人組合
這一季一共打了666分鐘
得分輸對手3.8分
再來看雙人組合
Beal+KD=>1040分鐘,“-8.1”
Beal+書人=>1012分鐘,“-7.7”
KD+書人=>1438分鐘,+1.8
這五千萬
不唬爛,真的驚天動地
拿Beal想敲油頭
光有油頭裸照我看籌碼還差的遠
我實在想像不出來
即使沒那個NTC
這要賣要怎麼貼
我看啊
高機率還要貼上KD買一送一
才有人願意回收
※ 引述《LABOYS (洛城浪子)》之銘言:
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: 'Talent only gets you so far': Devin Booker opens up on 'very frustrating'
: season for Suns
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: Devin Booker is in quite a quandary.
: His Phoenix Suns are imploding. After entering the season with championship: expectations, they're in 10th place in the West and are fighting to make the: play-in tournament. They stunned Kevin Durant by trying to trade him in
: February before he kiboshed a deal that would've sent him to Golden State.
: Bradley Beal was involved in multiple trade rumors despite his no-trade clause: . There are whispers that coach Mike Budenholzer's future with the team could: be shaky.
: Devin Booker 陷入了兩難境地。
: 他的鳳凰城太陽隊正在瀕臨崩潰。
: 本賽季開始時,球隊背負著爭奪總冠軍的期待,
: 但現在卻排名西區第十,苦苦掙扎爭取附加賽資格。
: 二月時,球隊試圖交易 Kevin Durant,
: 這讓他大感震驚,最終 KD 親自喊停了可能將他送往金州勇士的交易。
: Bradley Beal 則多次捲入交易傳聞,儘管他擁有不可交易條款。
: 此外,外界也傳出球隊總教練 Mike Budenholzer 的未來可能不太穩固的風聲。
: The Suns are clearly on the verge of seismic change this offseason, with all: three of their stars on maximum contracts and not enough to show for it.
: So, the big question is what does this mean for Booker, a 28-year-old who
: recently signed a four-year, $224 million supermax extension with the Suns
: through the 2027-28 season?
: When asked if he believes he could be traded too, he pointed to the fact that: no one is safe, something that was driven home to everyone in the NBA when the: Dallas Mavericks sent Luka Doncic – a 26-year-old who is considered a top-
: three player in the league – to the Los Angeles Lakers in February.
: 太陽隊在這個休賽季顯然即將迎來劇變,
: 三位球星擁有頂薪合約,但球隊的表現卻未能達到預期。
: 那麼,問題來了:
: 這對 Booker 意味著什麼?
: 這位 28 歲的球星剛與太陽隊簽下了一份四年 2.24 億美元的超級頂薪續約合同,
: 將效力至 2027-28 賽季。
: 當被問到自己是否可能被交易時,Booker 提到了 NBA 的一個現實——
: 沒有人是絕對安全的。這一點在今年二月獨行俠將 26 歲、
: 被公認為聯盟前三球員的 Luka Doncic 交易至洛杉磯湖人時,
: 已經深刻地烙印在所有球員心中。
: "Look at the situation that got Luka here," Booker told FOX Sports. "I
: understand that it's a business. I've been around a long time. The Luka one is: probably the craziest trade we've seen. But the game just keeps going."
: Suns owner Mat Ishbia recently told ESPN that trading Booker this offseason: would "never happen," adding, "I have Devin Booker in the prime. In order to: win an NBA championship, you got to have a superstar." Booker also apparently: isn't interested in being traded.
: 「看看 Luka 是怎麼轉隊的,」Booker 對《FOX Sports》表示。
: 「我明白這就是一門生意,我在這個聯盟待了很久。
: Luka 的交易可能是我們見過最瘋狂的交易之一,但比賽仍會繼續下去。」
: 太陽隊老闆 Mat Ishbia 最近在接受 ESPN 採訪時強調,
: 休賽季交易 Booker「絕對不會發生」,並補充道:
: 「Devin Booker 正處於巔峰。想要贏得 NBA 總冠軍,你必須擁有超級球星。」
: 此外,Booker 本人似乎也無意被交易。
: But it's clear that frustrations are mounting for Booker, whose Suns reached: the NBA Finals in 2021 but haven't made it past the second round of the
: playoffs since.
: During a recent trip to Los Angeles, Booker couldn't help but feel crushed by: how much things have changed since around this time four years ago, when he: was standing in front of the same locker, celebrating having just beaten the: LA Clippers in the Western Conference finals.
: He remembers the scene vividly.
: 但很明顯,Booker 的挫折感正在累積。
: 太陽隊在 2021 年闖入 NBA 總冠軍賽,但自那以後,他們再也沒能突破季後賽第二輪。: 最近一次造訪洛杉磯時,Booker 不禁感到心碎,因為一切變化太大了。
: 大約四年前的這個時候,他還站在同一個更衣室前,
: 慶祝剛剛擊敗洛杉磯快艇,挺進總冠軍賽。
: 他仍然清楚地記得當時的場景。
: He and his teammates poured water over Chris Paul's head. Deandre Ayton, lying: on the carpet, cuddled the conference finals trophy and asked, "Why she play: so hard to get?" Booker beamed, hopeful he was going to win his first
: championship in his first postseason appearance.
: Fast-forward to last March 16, when Booker was in the same place, but worlds: apart.
: 他和隊友們把水撒向 Chris Paul 的頭歡慶勝利。
: Deandre Ayton 躺在地毯上,抱著西區冠軍獎盃,開玩笑地問:「她怎麼這麼難追?」: Booker 滿臉笑容,充滿希望,認為自己能在生涯首次季後賽之旅中奪得總冠軍。
: 時光快轉至今年 3 月 16 日,
: Booker 站在同樣的地方,卻感覺像是處在完全不同的世界。
: After losing to the LeBron James-less Lakers, he was surrounded by a
: semicircle of reporters asking him different iterations of the same question:: How can the Suns be so bad despite having so much talent? Durant left the
: locker room before speaking to reporters. The mood was dismal, as the Suns': slide continued following the month of February, when they went 3-10.
: Booker didn't sugarcoat how the juxtaposition felt.
: "Very frustrating," Booker told FOX Sports. "We celebrated the Western
: Conference finals right here. I was standing in the same spot."
: 在輸給沒有 LeBron James 的湖人後,
: Booker 被一群記者包圍,一群人不斷用不同的措辭問著同一個問題:
: 太陽隊明明擁有這麼多天賦,為什麼表現還這麼糟?
: Durant 在記者會開始前就離開了更衣室,氣氛低沉,
: 而太陽隊在二月份打出 3 勝 10 負的戰績後,狀況依舊持續下滑。
: Booker 並沒有掩飾這種強烈的對比帶來的感受。
: 「非常令人沮喪,」他對《FOX Sports》說道。
: 「我們當時就在這裡慶祝晉級總冠軍賽,就是我現在站的,同一個地方。」
: It's confounding that the Suns are in this position considering they have a: coach with championship experience in Budenholzer, a two-time champion and two: -time Finals MVP in Durant and seven All-Star appearances between Booker (four: ) and Beal (three).
: So, seriously, what's the problem?
: "Talent only gets you so far," Booker told FOX Sports. "I've been on teams
: with less talent that found ways to get more wins. It's just the little things: . What people always say, the details of the game. Although it sounds like we: should know that at this part of our careers, it's just something you need to: form and develop and learn through trial and error.
: 考慮到太陽隊擁有一位具備冠軍總教頭 Budenholzer,
: 一位兩屆總冠軍、兩屆FMVP 的KD,以及Booker(四次)與Beal(三次),
: 兩人合計七次入選全明星,這樣的陣容,他們如今陷入這種困境實在令人費解。
: 那麼,問題到底出在哪裡?
: 「憑藉天賦打球終究有其極限,」Booker 對《FOX Sports》表示。
: 「我待過一些天賦較差的球隊,但我們總能找到贏球的方法。關鍵就在那些細節——
: 大家常說的比賽細節。雖然聽起來我們這個階段應該已經掌握了這些東西,
: 但這仍然需要透過不斷磨合、發展,並從試錯中學習。」
: Budenholzer chalked up the Suns' issues to effort, saying, "We need a little: bit more from everybody." He included himself in that category, too, following: a game in which Durant chirped at him shortly after they exchanged words
: during a game earlier this month. Durant — who made his 15th All-Star
: appearance in February, and is averaging 26.4 points on 52.6% shooting,
: including 41.6% from beyond the arc, alongside 6.1 rebounds and 4.3 assists —: pointed to the first incident as evidence of how much they both care about
: trying to right the ship.
: Budenholzer 將太陽隊的問題歸咎於不夠努力,並表示:「我們需要每個人付出更多。」: 在這場比賽後,他也將自己納入其中,因為在本月初的一場比賽中,
: KD 在他們交換言辭後對他發出了些許不滿的反應。
: KD——在二月迎來了自己的第15次全明星賽出場,
: 場均貢獻 26.4 分、52.6% 的投籃命中率(包括 41.6% 三分球命中率),
: 加上 6.1 個籃板和 4.3 次助攻——
: 將這次事件視為他們兩人都非常關心,並努力挽回頹勢的一個證據。
: The Suns have now won two games in a row, beating Toronto on Monday and
: Chicago on Wednesday. But they have a tough stretch ahead, including facing: some of the top teams in the East in their next three games, in top-seeded
: Cleveland, second-seeded Boston and fifth-seeded Milwaukee.
: For Booker, his time with the Suns has been a rollercoaster. He saw them go: from not even making the playoffs in his first six seasons to reaching the
: Finals in 2021. Then, Ishbia turned the team on its head to acquire Durant
: followed by Beal. Last season's shortcomings could be chalked up to injuries.: But this season, the Suns are out of excuses.
: 太陽隊最近取得了兩連勝,分別擊敗了多倫多和芝加哥。
: 然而,他們接下來的賽程非常艱難,
: 包括在接下來的三場比賽中將面對東區的頂尖球隊——
: 排名第一的克里夫蘭、第二的波士頓和第五的密爾瓦基。
: 對 Booker 而言,他在太陽隊的歷程就像是一趟雲霄飛車。
: 他見證了球隊從他前六個賽季無緣季後賽,到 2021 年成功晉級總冠軍賽。
: 隨後,Ishbia 對球隊進行了徹底的改組,引進了 KD 和 Beal。
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看粗暴的爛數字要幹嘛?建議下次看棒球粗暴的打點
我大哥太苦了…36歲還受過大傷還要帶一群小貓打球
太陽自己拆掉CP3跟Ayton,陣容由一片光明變黑暗
結論:KD大貓帶著一群小貓
還有大橋鐵人拿來換KD,結果攻防要KD+全扛
坦克神器,不過綁的年份稍微多了一點
Beal有這麼差嗎 難道這類型的球員不能當核心?
書人今年數據一坨表現還比霸王好噢
不過這好像當初是KD指定要的? 結果換走了保羅
不管啦 數據冷冰冰
Beal看投射效率也不差阿...而且也很願意防守,怎麼
上場效率差成這樣
頓寶當初鬧僵到沒辦法留了吧?簡而言之選亞軍未必好
KD KT都以為亞軍好像離冠軍比較近才上車 事實上不然
加今年還有三年,兄弟保重,季末KD、書人走一個的話
,下一季穩的
但比爾就是跟其他兩位打法不合
比爾在 太陽21-27 不在 13-10 三巨頭都在 19-18
比爾不在 KD書人在 12-3 就明明數據還可以
但1+1+1就長這樣 而且另外的1+1大於3
太陽自己的鍋吧,有Ayton跟相機不用跑去換拓荒者那
一包
太陽之後沒人敢說湊三星就能奪冠了
更古早 組三星四星失敗的例子其實不少啊
多粗暴都沒有霸王粗暴
Beal不在雙星在太陽11-3
會列這些數字也是給不看球 堅持比爾沒很爛的人看
看來直接棄用五千萬就能進季後賽
五千萬實質傷害球隊繼續打 JB被說傷害球隊就被禁賽
Beal應該還比Lavine好吧 好奇這兩個得分能力那麼
好的AS 為什麼都沒辦法帶領球隊成為爭冠強隊 最後
反而都變成難找下家的燙手山芋呢
因為籃球不是只有拿分那麼簡單吧
有點好奇Beal去哪隊會合適 目前看討論偏向太陽位置
因為重疊所以Beal對太陽的效率是負的
你看歷史奪冠那幾個SG哪個是純得分手?都嘛攻防組織
全包
去坦隊當刷子最適合吧
又能坦又能刷數據
lavine今年進攻效率比Beal好很多 雖然防守一樣爛
就算沒有Beal,太陽依然爆薪資卡限制無法補強,多
數人只是拿Beal來領繩替死鬼,事實上是教練戰術呆板
,GM交易手段低劣,補人也只補矮子
不用補強,高機率人丟掉就進季後賽了
球迷怪beal ,再整天幻想Ayton 、相機也無處於是
有沒有看過這麼慘烈的組合,所有雙人、三人組合,只
要組到Beal全負,沒百回合要輸7分多
再一支非墊底隊看到這種狀況,每...這真的屌爆了
比爾就是太貴 他的身價只值2500-3000美 跟英雄差不
*每
多的砍分手
除了拿去坦克用,我想不到其他用途,怎麼能這麼慘
火箭的陣容適合Beal嗎 不控球專注得分 可以解決火
箭貧攻問題?
人家有Green不需要
你實在太粗暴了XD
Green如果能解決火箭貧攻問題當然就不需要Beal啦
人家火箭有一堆資源可以解決這問題,決不是去換個50
M爛約
所以是價格問題不是能力問題 如果便宜個15M Beal應
該還會算搶手 了解
可能吧,在其他世界線
Beal的問題永遠都是咖位跟薪水。他要是3000萬然後
任勞任怨其實都好說。
少15M你怎麼判斷會搶手的,他BPM負的,對標的板凳第
8、9、10
你們家這麼有錢,球隊第八人花35M簽....
Beal簽約時好歹也是全明星級聯盟前幾的SG吧 不然他
跟Lavine的合理價位應該落在哪 不高於30M?
LV這季比他好多了,他成績是自己打爛掉的,要怪誰
Lavine這季的薪水感覺沒那麼重了,大概只剩28%,以今
年來說算還行吧
3000萬這種健康度也是嫌到歪掉啦
在巫師就是刷子
好恐怖的數據~~~~(驚!
巫師就專門給肥約留人的球隊 Wall那張也是肥到爆
差在Wall大傷直接沒人要 beal還騙到有人撿
雖然沒很喜歡LV但他跟比爾比我一定選LV
比爾跟龜龜就是兩把大刷子,只是龜龜不像比爾有先簽
到大約再被交易
龜龜就沒霸王至少能操作
Beal:想交易還得我同意呢 你是不是搞錯了什麼小朋友
onoff一直都只是參考 不能只拿這個數據
你這麼認這個評分系統幹~什~麼~
有時候就是衝動交易 比爾爛在她5000萬又有霸王
真的不合想再換 困難重重
比爾就真的只是刷子一個
推文一定有人說看這個不準
爆
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其實有些球員真的就是撐再久也是很難拿到冠軍的。 上一個可以在原球隊待滿超過十年, 並且在第十三年拿到冠軍的明星球員是誰呢? DIRK,在小牛待了十三年,最後拿到冠軍, 總共待了21年退休。60
其實一切的開端就是不想給DominAyton頂薪 Ayton雖然軟但是能投中距離的中鋒真的很稀有,護框能力也不至於完全沒有 最關鍵就是太陽擺明不想簽他導致玻璃心碎,直接進入養生狀態擺爛 NBA很多玻璃心,像Ben Simmons被鉛筆場外嘴一個,直接心態炸裂一厥不振(當然背傷也 有影響),或是Kuminga不給多上場時間就一上場就腦打
爆
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