[外絮] The Athletic關於Draft Combine專文

來源:The Athletic(須付費)
https://theathletic.com/3328595/2022/05/23/nba-draft-combine-analysis/
作者:John Hollinger與Sam Vecenie

The 2022 NBA Draft Combine has come and gone, with the event achieving its
usual goal of kicking off the draft cycle in earnest. John Hollinger was on
the ground in Chicago, and Sam Vecenie worked the phone lines from afar, eachtirelessly drinking coffee and gaining intel from the event. Here’s what
they learned:

2022年NBA選秀聯合試訓已經結束並圓滿落幕了。John Hollinger也出席了芝加哥的這個活動,Sam Vecenie則不在現場透過電話努力工作,兩個人以靠著大量的咖啡不眠不休地蒐集情報。這些是他們所獲取的消息:

How do we make the combine more valuable for attendees?

The first thing everyone talks about at the combine is how to make it better.To its credit, the league has made some progress, encouraging five-on-five
participation, streamlining the “agent workouts” (more on these in a
minute) and tweaking the event’s timing so that only four teams are still
playing when it happens.

That said, what do you think is going to happen when a couple hundred people
get together to talk shop? As ever, the gripes were abundant:

我們如何使聯合試訓對於參加者來說更有價值?

大家討論聯合試訓的第一件事就是我們如何使它更好。為了公信力,聯盟是有做一些調整,鼓勵更多的5v5參與,精簡化了"經紀人體測"(一分鐘後會談到更多)並調整活動的流程所以只會有四隊同時打球。

你覺得當幾百人聚在了一起談論這些公事會發生甚麼?如同過往,抱怨還是很多的:

A continuing bug in the program is getting the top-ranked players to
participate. While no sane person thinks a potential top-five pick will
actually play basketball here, the reluctance of many prospects to submit to
health and medical examinations has been a sore spot. The league can’t
compel players who are not yet part of the NBA to participate in such tests,
but one wonders if it could create a workaround in the next CBA. For
instance, requiring players who want to enter the draft early to submit to
health and medical exams at the combine would effectively eliminate the
problem.

第一個一直以來都有的問題是沒辦法讓那些最頂尖的球員參加聯合試訓。不過不會有理智的人會認為一個可能是前五順位的球員會真的去聯合試訓打球,這些球員對於參與健康與醫療測試的意願低迷才是痛點。聯盟至今仍然無法強制要求還不是NBA一份子的球員參與這些測試,但大家都在思考能不能在下一次CBA中達成這一個部分。舉例來說,要求想要提早參加NBA選秀的球員在聯合體測時繳交一份健康與醫療測試會很有效的解決這個問題。

A more maddening issue has been players’ unwillingness to participate in the
five-on-five portion of the combine, even if they probably should to improve
their draft stock. In a way, this mechanism could end up being
self-correcting. Several players moved up teams’ boards in 2021 partly as a
result of playing in Chicago, including a few who vaulted into the first
round (notably 12th pick Joshua Primo, 24th pick Josh Christopher and 25th
pick Quentin Grimes).

另外一個令人抓狂的問題是不少球員對於參與5v5對抗的意願非常低落,即使是在參加後非常有可能提高他們選秀行情的情況下。在某種程度下,這個機制可以很好的讓球員自我修正。有些球員在2021因為他們在5v5對抗的好表現進入了球隊們的眼簾,這其中包含了幾個成功殺入第一輪的球員(最著名的有第12順位的Joshua Primo,24順位的Josh Christopher及25順位的Quentin Grimes。)

With this year’s solid play of Santa Clara’s Jalen Williams and some others
foreboding the same (more on that below), one wonders if agents will stop
overplaying their hands. Several players who either stood pretty firmly in
second-round territory (Marquette’s Justin Lewis, Duke’s Wendell Moore) or
had little to lose by playing five-on-five (G League Ignite’s Jaden Hardy,
Milwaukee’s Patrick Baldwin, Michigan State’s Max Christie) nonetheless sat
out that portion. Amusingly, NC State’s Terquavion Smith pulled out of the
second day of games after “proving” himself with a 6-for-17 shooting
performance in the first one.

在今年聖塔克拉拉大學的Jalen Williams及一些其他人打出身價之後(等一下會提),開始有人思考是否能阻止經紀人們的過度插手操作。有些看起來穩穩地只會在第二輪的球員(馬奎特的Justin Louis,杜克的Wendell Moore)及即使打5v5也沒什麼能失去的球員(G League的Jaden Hardy,密爾瓦基的Patrick Baldwin,密西根州大的Max Christie)仍然決定不參與那個部分。更有趣的是,北卡州大的Terquavion Smith在第一場用17投6中的表現"證明"了自己的實力以後退出了第二天的試訓。

The so-called pro days or “agent workouts” arranged by agent groups
continue to be a leading source of griping from front office personnel. Theseare little more than shows run by the agents to showcase their clients
running and dunking, and definitely not playing basketball against another
human being. The general opinion was that they were near-worthless as a
player-evaluation tool and incredibly time-consuming at a time when execs don’t have a ton of free hours.

被稱為職業日或是"經紀人體測"(因為常常是經紀人團隊舉辦)的測試持續地遭受很多制服組人員的抱怨。因為這些與其說是經紀人的客戶們展現自己的舞台,不如說只是經紀人安排的一場秀,而且絕對不會與任何人類有籃球對抗。大家有一個共識就是這些Showcase對於球員評價幾乎是毫無價值且對於忙碌的管理層來說浪費時間(註:曾凡博就是退出了聯合試訓並只參與經紀人舉辦的Showcase。)

Nonetheless, team reps felt obligated to attend because everyone else was
going, and because they didn’t want to insult the agents. Everyone admits it
’s mostly fake hustle, but in some cases, there is real value for team execs
who haven’t been on the road as much. If they haven’t seen a prospect in
the flesh yet, this can be their best chance to get eyes on a first-round
prospect they expect to be long gone before they pick. Occasionally, an
agency might roll out a three-on-three that features a couple of interesting
prospects.

即使如此,各隊的代表認為他們還是有義務參與經紀人體測因為其他人都會去且他們不想得罪經紀人。大家都默認這些Showcase裡面的表現都是虛假的奮鬥,但對某些還沒出過辦公室的管理層來說還是有一些真實價值。如果他們還沒看過任何一名新秀,這有可能是這些管理層能獲得一些看看一些距離他們順位很遙遠的新秀的最好機會。正常來說,經紀公司都可能會安排一場由幾名有趣新秀打的3v3比賽。

While the league at least coordinated to put a bunch of these workouts in
Chicago rather than forcing team execs to travel hither and yon (a few othersare concentrated on Southern California next week), that puts additional
pressure on the week’s already compressed schedule. Staff often had to go
from long days interviewing prospects directly to agent workouts at night.
The most prominent emotion by Friday was exhaustion.

雖然聯盟至少把這些試訓舉辦在了芝加哥並讓管理層不用到處旅行(有一些會在下周聚集在南加州),但這使該周原本就已經很濃縮的時程表被施予了更多壓力。工作人員常常都要在早上面試潛力球員並在晚上在趕去參加經紀人展示。在周五時普遍的情緒是滿滿的疲憊。

Intel dump 各種情報

But enough of our whining. What other scuttlebutt emerged from the week in
Chicago?

抱怨夠多了。我們這禮拜在芝加哥還聽到了哪些內線呢?

Orlando winning the lottery could throw a monkey wrench on draft night. Whilemost draft analysts have Jabari Smith Jr. rated as the top prospect, John
Hollinger Spies think the Magic are leaning toward selecting Chet Holmgren.
Of course, that would play to their type. This front office’s track record
reveals an obsession with length, so one can easily connect the dots there.

樂透的贏家奧蘭多魔術可能會打亂大家的選秀計畫。雖然大部分選秀專家都覺得Jabari
Smith Jr.是本屆最好的潛力,John Hollinger認為魔術傾向選擇Chet Holmgren。當然,
Chet非常符合他們的球風。魔術管理層的歷史紀錄也透露他們對於長人的熱愛,所以大家都能推敲出來。

On the other hand, some league insiders immediately second-guessed that firstinstinct. Are the Magic just playing on their length-based reputation to baitOklahoma City into trading up from No. 2? Let the game of smoke signals begin.

同時,有些聯盟內線立刻想到了另一種可能性。有可能其實不是魔術對於長人的熱愛,而是他們想要迫使奧克拉荷馬雷霆將第二順位向上交易?煙霧戰的號角吹響了。

Most people who spoke with The Athletic expect a lot of trade and player
movement leading up to the draft and beyond. Even in the lottery, we could
see some action. Sacramento has a clear win-now expectation, several front
office members on the last year of their contracts and the fourth pick in thedraft burning a hole in its pocket. One suspects that pick might be in play
in return for some wing help.

大部分跟The Athletic專家聊過的人都預期選秀前與當天將會有很多交易與球員動向。甚至連樂透區都有可能要操作。沙加緬度國王位於一個Win Now的時間點,幾名合約走到盡頭的管理層人員及第四順位都使這狀況成為燙手山芋。有些人認為這個選秀權可能會拿去買側翼上的幫助回來。

The pick that seems even more certain to be on the move is Portland’s at No.
7, with sources saying the Blazers will push to immediately put a competitiveteam around Damian Lillard rather than start over. Detroit’s Jerami Grant
has been the hot name here, but the Blazers could look at other options.

另外一個看起來也會被交易的順位是波特蘭拓荒者的第七順位。有內線說拓荒者比起打掉重練更傾向於圍繞Lillard重整並努力贏球。活塞的Jerami Grant是流言中的一個目標但拓荒者也有可能尋找其他選項。

We were critical of the Lakers’ decision to not pay a team cash to take
DeAndre Jordan at the trade deadline, but it may pay off at the draft. L.A.
has been open about using its remaining cash stash (the Lakers can put $4.7
million into a trade between now and July 1) to buy its way into the second
round, where the Lakers currently do not have a pick. The Lakers’ scouting
department has built up an impressive track record of finding sleepers late
in the draft, so it will be interesting to see who they might target. (One
other note for the cap nerds: The Lakers still could have done a Jordan tradeand then bought their second-rounder in a pre-arranged trade when the new capyear’s cash rolls over on July 1; that has been done before, but also would
have impacted their flexibility for 2022-23.)

我們對於湖人交易截止日不想付錢清DeAndre Jordan的操作有諸多批評,不過他的好處可能在選秀大會上會得到回報。本屆沒有任何選秀權的湖人正在考慮使用剩餘的預算(湖人可以在7/1之前在交易中投入470萬)來購買一個第二輪選秀權。湖人球探部門對於在第二輪淘寶有著非常輝煌的紀錄,所以我們會很好奇誰會是湖人的可能目標。(給薪資書呆子的筆記:湖人仍然可以用預先談好的手段來清掉DAJ並同時用7/1之後的預算買一個二輪;這之前有做過不過也會影響2022-2023的操作彈性。)

Other teams with multiple picks are expected to try to move up in the draft,
which could make trading down profitable for those picking in the late
lottery and teens. Oklahoma City, for instance, has picks at No. 12 and No.
30 and a surfeit of future picks to sweeten a deal; using those to move up
and nab a targeted player seems like a no-brainer. Other multi-first-rounder
teams to watch include San Antonio (Nos. 9, 20 and 25), Charlotte (Nos. 13
and 15) and Memphis (Nos. 22 and 29). San Antonio, in particular, had a sea
of staff at the combine intently watching the proceedings.

有多個選秀權的球隊會更想向上交易,這可能使得那些目標在選那堆青少年及樂透後段球員並願意向下球隊的球隊有利可圖。舉例來說,奧克拉荷馬雷霆擁有第12與第30順位以及多個未來選秀權就可能使得這個操作更加甜美;用這些選秀權來獲取一名相較沒有疑慮的球員。其他可以關注的多選秀權球隊還有聖安東尼奧馬刺(9 20 25),夏洛特黃蜂(13 15)及灰熊(22 29)。尤其是馬刺,他們在聯合體測中派出了人員海來密切關注體測過程。

Finally, Oklahoma City’s pick at No. 30 was the topic of other speculation.
Michigan forward Caleb Houstan was notably absent from the week’s
proceedings, with many league insiders suspecting he had a promise from a
team in return for shutting down his draft process. Suspicion immediately
went to the Thunder, given their surplus of picks and long history of making
their draft pick in April. Houstan wouldn’t even be the first Michigan guy
they did this with. (Hello, Mitch McGary!)

最後,雷霆隊的30號籤也是大家談論的一個話題。密西根前鋒Caleb Houston缺席了體測,有不少消息來源懷疑他已經獲得球隊承諾並答應中止他的選秀行程(註:答應會選,所以也不要你再打高)。懷疑者立刻將箭頭指向了雷霆,因為他們過往事會在四月就已經給出大量的選秀決定與承諾。Houstan也不是他們第一個這麼做的密西根球員(哈囉 Mitch McGary!)

A Shaedon Sharpe sighting Shaedon Sharpe觀察

If the NBA Draft has a mystery man within the top 10, it is indeed Sharpe, a
6-foot-5 wing from Canada who committed to Kentucky early this season, got oncampus for the second semester, sat out the season and then declared for the
draft as an early entrant. He is eligible for the draft by nature of having
graduated high school before the 2021-22 NBA season began and by turning 19
before the end of 2022.

如果說本屆選秀前十順位有一個謎團,那絕對是Sharpe。這名這季答應加入肯塔基身高6尺5吋的加拿大側翼,第二學期才抵達學校並做壁上觀,最後甚至提早宣布投入選秀。他符合選秀的資格因為他已經從高中畢業並會在2022結束前滿19歲。

Evaluators got a chance to see him go through one of those one-on-zero
workouts on Monday held by his agency. Per the sources in attendance, he ran
through a number of drills put on by trainers and got a chance to show off
some of his shot-making ability and leaping. Still, the main takeaway from
evaluators and decision-makers who spoke with The Athletic was essentially, “What did we actually learn here?”

評價者在他的經紀人舉辦的單人Workout才得到機會一窺他的廬山真面目。從參與者的消息來源表示,他進行了數個有訓練員參與的訓練並展示了他的投射技巧與跳高。依然,我們從評價者與決策者得到最主要的扣分是"他們從那邊得知了甚麼?"

As mentioned above, that is a typical takeaway from evaluators sitting
through these types of workouts. But it felt a bit more pronounced with Sharpe’s for a few reasons, including the absence of valuable game film on him. A
lot of what came through from sources was that absolutely nothing was done atgame speed, with most of the drills in terms of his handle being executed
more slowly than what he’ll face on an NBA court. He didn’t do anything
complex. For a player who few have actually seen at high-level game speed
much, the workout didn’t provide any insight into the actual questions to
which decision-makers would like some semblance of an answer before
potentially selecting him on draft night. It was a prime example of why thesepro days can be so frustrating.

如同我前面說的,經紀人所舉辦的Showcase對於評價者來說本身就是個扣分。但Sharpe得到扣分的多項理由更多,其中包含了他不存在的實戰影片。關於Sharpe的情報都不是在比賽的節奏下取得,在他控制下的訓練中他所做做的比他會在NBA賽場上面對的要慢上許多。他也沒做任何複雜的事。對於一名沒有面對過任何高強度比賽速度的球員來說,他的workout並沒有回答到選秀會決策者對於他的疑慮。這也是一個案例說明為甚麼這些經紀人showcase如此令人感到沮喪。

This shouldn’t be mistaken for saying that Sharpe performed poorly. Those in
attendance said he looked very bouncy, and his in-person length impressed
those who were seeing him for the first time. He didn’t burn the net down or
anything with his shooting, but hit enough shots off the catch and his own
dribble — particularly stepbacks and side-steps — to showcase his long-term
potential. But no one is going to be rushing to the podium based on Monday’s
workout.

這不能與Sharpe的表現混為一談。參與Showcase的人說他看起來非常的會跳且身長對於第一次看到他的人來說非常出色。他雖然沒有展示出火燙的手感或是甚麼投射能力,但他有展現出足夠的接球後投射與自己運球後投射的能力--尤其是後撤步與側步--展現了他長期的潛力。但仍然沒有人要在星期一的Showcase後提前在講台上喊出他的名字。

Sharpe backed up that workout by confirming those measurements, coming in at
6-foot-5 in shoes with a 6-foot-11.5 wingspan and a good standing reach for awing. He then opted out of the rest of the proceedings.

Sharpe在體測展示了他的身材條件,6尺5吋的穿鞋身高與6尺11.5吋的臂展以及以側翼來說很好的摸高。然後他就退出了剩餘的聯合試訓。

The big winner of the combine 試訓的贏家們

Among actual NBA Draft Combine participants — limited as they were — the
name that stood out most often was Santa Clara wing Jalen Williams. It’s
tough to find a part of the proceedings that he didn’t ace. He’s been
rising up the board throughout the pre-draft process as teams go back throughtape at the end of the season to catch up on guys they missed and put the
overall class in context. Both of us had Williams with a first-round grade
coming in, but his stock has exploded into the stratosphere following his
week in Chicago.

在實際參與了試訓的參加者們中--如同以往的沒那麼多--最常被提到的名字一定是來自聖塔克拉拉的側翼Jalen Williams。在本次試訓中很難找到他沒做好的環節。他在選秀前的環節中評價不斷的上升並使各隊回去看了他本季的比賽影片來惡補這名他們都錯過的新秀。我們兩個原本都已經把Williams擺在了第一輪,但他的行情在這一周的試訓中爆炸性的水漲船高。

First and foremost, he measured at 6-foot-6 with a 7-foot-2 wingspan. His
standing reach came in higher than guys expected to play a lot of minutes at
the four, like E.J. Liddell, David Roddy, Jake LaRavia and Jabari Walker.
Beyond that, Williams is a wing player who can handle the ball to collapse a
defense and make plays for his teammates off passes. He also knocked down 3s
at a 40 percent clip in college. While his defensive ability has raised some
questions, he’s big and long enough to become more versatile as he keeps
developing his frame in NBA strength and conditioning programs.

第一且最重要的,他有6尺6吋的身高與7尺2吋的臂展。他的站立摸高甚至比那些長期打4號位的球員們還高,如EJ Liddell, David Roddy, Jake LaRavia與Jabari Walker。更有甚者,Williams是一名側翼球員且他可以運球吸引防守並為隊友創造機會。他甚至可以以40%的命中率在大學投進三分球。不過他的防守能力是有一些疑慮,但他夠大也夠長可以在NBA的發展下成為一名多功能的防守者。

It all came together in the five-on-five games, where Williams was
outstanding. He was one of the best players on the court in his first day,
helping to lead his team to a late victory. A few guys decided to pull out
after playing well the first day, but Williams doubled down. On the second
day, he put together the best performance from anyone at the event, scoring
19 points on 7-of-8 shooting while completely rolling over the competition.

而這些他全部在5v5中展現了出來,他在那個環節打得非常出色。他是第一天場上最好的球員之一並帶領球隊逆轉。有幾個人在第一天打好之後就決定退出,但Williams沒有甚至加倍的表現。第二天,他展示出了整個試訓所有人最好的表現,8投7中得到19分並在所有對抗中輾壓對手。

We obviously shouldn’t go nuts and overrate the importance of these types of
games or events. They don’t overshadow the entirety of the tape and the body
of work Williams put in over the season. But Williams was already getting
second and third looks from teams after they realized how good the tape
really was. NBA scouts and decision-makers at the event sent us more texts
about Williams than any other player at the event who actually participated
in the proceedings. At this point, we expect he ends up being picked near thetop-20 on draft night.

我們當然不該過譽或是瘋狂的強調這些比賽及活動的重要性。他們並不會展示Williams在整季實戰影片中與訓練中的一切。但Willaims已經讓很多球隊二次甚至是三次重新審視這名大放異彩的球員。在場的NBA球探與決策者在所有參與新秀中給我們傳遞了最多有關
Williams的訊息。在這個時間點,我們預期他會在選秀夜上在前20順位被摘走。

Other five-on-five standouts 其他5v5表現出色的人們

Terquavion Smith (NC State) shut it down after the first scrimmage at the
combine. He dropped 17 points to lead his team. It wasn’t the most efficient
outing, but he showcased real ability to get to his shot whenever he wanted.
On the back of strong athletic testing and a good shooting day, Smith should
feel like he’s in a good spot heading into the rest of the cycle, even if he
only went 6-for-17. As much as anything, that says a lot about how low the
standard is for playing well and how much prospects can gain from playing
five-on-five.

Terquavion Smith(北卡州大)他在第一個訓練賽之後就退出了試訓。他得了全隊最高的17分。雖然他打的沒有很高效但他展示了他可以隨時想得分的得分能力。再加上有體測與投射測驗好表現的背書,Smith應該感覺他在一個不錯的位置並能在只有17投6中的情況下退出試訓。這說明了大家對於這些潛力球員在5v5試訓中打好的標準有多低且投資報酬率有多高。

Andrew Nembhard (Gonzaga) missed the first day of scrimmages with a thigh
injury, but made up for lost time on the final day, with a 26-point,
11-assist outburst that was easily the best single-game performance of the
week. His passing was a known quantity, but his ability to make pull-up
jumpers off the dribble in the pick-and-roll answered some scouts’ questions
about his scoring ability.

Andrew Nemhard(Gonzaga)因為大腿傷勢缺席了第一天的賽程,但他在最後一天成功補救了失去的時間並得到了26分11助攻的爆發也輕易的成了這周單場最佳表現。他傳球能力大家原本就已經知道了,但他擋拆運球後急停跳投很好的回答了球探們對於他得分能力的疑慮。

Kofi Cockburn (Illinois) has his limitations as a traditional beast-ball big
man, but he had the best per-minute game score of any player to play on both
days. His frame (a rock-solid 7-0 in shoes with a 7-4 wingspan) makes him a
relatively safe pick as a backup five. He’ll be in the mix in the second
round for teams looking for size.

Kofi Cockburn(伊利諾)有著傳統體能型長人的限制,但他這兩天打出了所有球員之中最好的分均得分。他的身材(實打實的7尺穿鞋身高與7尺4吋臂展)使他成為一名替補中鋒的安全選擇。他會在第二輪被需要他身材的球隊選走。

Drew Timme (Gonzaga) opened some eyes by making four 3-pointers on the secondday of scrimmages — he was 5-of-8 overall — and also had a legendary
protest of a traveling call against him. Timme measured 6-9 in shoes and willneed to play the four at the next level. He showed enough skill to
potentially pull it off.

Drew Timme(Gonzaga)他在試訓第二天投進的4顆三分球擦亮了許多人的眼睛--總計8投5中--並有著傳奇的走步抗議。Timme穿鞋身高6尺9吋並需要在NBA打四號位。他已經展示了要滿足這需求的技能。

Dereon Seabron (NC State) measured short (6-6 in shoes, not the 6-7 he was
listed at in college) and isn’t a shooter, but his ability to get downhill
and complete a variety of finishes at the rim again separated him.

Dereon Seabron(北卡州大)的身高比他大學時報的矮(穿鞋6尺6吋而非他報的6尺7吋)且不是一名射手,但他切入並在籃框附近進球的能力造就他與眾不同。

Some five-on-five disappointments 幾名令人失望的5v5球員

In a crowded field of shooting guards, Keon Ellis (Alabama) struggled to
distinguish himself in the two games. He wasn’t bad so much as invisible,
scoring just nine points in the two games with few other additions to the boxscore.

在眾多的得分後衛之中,Keon Ellis(阿拉巴馬)在兩場比賽中一直找不到自己的定位。他沒有到隱形,但只在兩場比賽得了9分並其他數據都不出色。

David Roddy (Colorado State) missed all six of his 3-point attempts and shot
5-of-17 overall. Scouts have seen enough of his shooting to trust that the
misfires from deep were not indicative of his long-range marksmanship, but
his inability to make more of an impact in other facets of the game will add
to the concerns about how his body type translates to the next level.

David Roddy(科羅拉多州大)他6次三分出手通通沒進且總計只有17投5中的命中率。球探不是已經認知到他的投射能力不足而否定他成為一名遠程射手,而是他無法在其他的部分給隊上帶來一些影響力並會對於他的身材能否很好的轉換至下一個層級產生疑慮。

Canadian mystery man Leonard Miller narrowly edged out Roddy and Ellis for
the lowest per-minute game score of the two games. A raw teenager, he missed
a number of open 3-point looks and looked lost on defense. He might do well
to spend a year of seasoning in college or the G League before jumping to theNBA.

加拿大的謎樣男子Leonard Miller以些微的差距擊敗Roddy與Ellis並奪下了這兩場比賽分均得分數的最低。作為一名青澀的青少年,他沒投進不少空檔三分球並時常在防守時迷失。他也許要在大學或是G League再打磨一年才比較適合跳級進入NBA。

LaRavia Madness LaRavia瘋狂

The draft community buzzed with speculation following Jake LaRavia’s choice
to not play five-on-five action, wondering if the Wake Forest forward had a
promise following a strong first day at the combine. He measured out at
6-foot-8, he tested well athletically for what was expected, and he was one
of the best players to participate in the shooting drills. He also posted oneof the best scores in the lane-agility drill, a surprising result for a
player whose main concern for teams revolves around his ability to defend
guards out on the perimeter when in switches.

選秀社群注意到了Jake LaRavia選擇不打5v5試訓,以為這名威克森林大學前鋒已經在第一天的好表現就已經獲得球隊承諾。他身高6尺8吋並有預期中的運動能力,且他也是投射試訓中表現最好的球員之一。他也意外地在地板測試中取得漂亮的分數,打消了很多球隊對於他能否防守外圍後衛的疑慮。

Ultimately, LaRavia pulled out of the rest of the events simply because he
and his agency are comfortable with his general range, not because he alreadyhas a specific destination. The goal was to show that he could shoot and thathe was more athletic than expected, and that mission was accomplished by the
time Wednesday night rolled around. LaRavia should be expected to hear his
name called somewhere in the top 35 on draft night and has a very good chancestarting at pick No. 20. Size, shooting and elite feel for the game are a
tough combination to find, and a lot of contenders have real interest in him
within those final 10 picks of the first round.

結果,LaRavia退出試訓只是因為他與他的經紀人對於他的可能落點已經感到滿足而非他們已經獲得特定球隊的承諾。他們的目標只是要展示他的投射能力且比大家想像的更有運動能力而已,而他在星期三晚上以前的表現就已經達成。LaRavia應該會在前35順位並在20順位後就聽到他的名字。身材,投射,以及對比賽菁英的感覺不是一個好找的組合,而很多WinNow球隊對於在最後十順位選他都有真實的興趣。

Measurement guys 體測球員

Mark Williams (Duke) came in at 7-foot-2 in shoes with a 7-foot-7 wingspan
and a 9-foot-9 standing reach. That standing reach is actually the
second-biggest of all time behind Celtics legend Tacko Fall. Williams has a
very good chance to hear his name called in the lottery on draft night by theend of the process.

Mark Williams(杜克)有著7尺2吋的穿鞋身高,7尺7吋臂展與9尺9吋站立摸高。這摸高是史上第二高的僅次於賽爾提克傳奇Tacko Fall。Williams非常有機會在樂透區就聽到他的名字。

Likely lottery pick Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite) backed up his rumored
growth in terms of height, measuring 6-foot-7 1/2 in shoes as a guy who playsabout half of his time as a lead guard. He also has a 6-foot-10 1/2 wingspan
and an 8-foot-10 standing reach that is among the elite for combo guards in
the last decade. NBA teams had been hearing for weeks that Daniels had grown
over the last year, so getting this down on paper for him was enormous. He’s
likely to hear his name called in the top 10.

很有可能是樂透選秀的Dyson Daniels(G League Ignite)為他傳言中的長高背書,量出了6尺7.5吋這個以控衛來說很高的穿鞋身高。他也有著6尺10.5吋的臂展與8尺10吋這個對於雙能衛來說菁英級別的站立摸高。NBA球隊過去幾周一直聽說Daniels過去一年還有在長高,所以這些體測數據使他行情更好了。他非常有可能前十就被選走。

Wisconsin guard Johnny Davis did himself some good by coming in at more than
6-foot-4 without shoes, when some teams had some very real concerns that he’
d be about that height with shoes. At 6-foot-5 3/4 in shoes with an 8-foot-7
1/2 standing reach, Davis looks well-suited to playing either wing position
now as opposed to coming in with measurements that would leave him
position-locked as a two.

威斯康辛後衛Johnny Davis在他進行了體測之後打消了他身高疑慮。他6尺4吋的裸足身高使球隊不再懷疑他的身高是墊出來的。穿鞋6尺5.75吋的身高與8尺7.5吋的摸高,Davis看起來可以打上側翼而非體測前定在的二號位。

Tari Eason (LSU) measured as well as expected at 6-foot-8 in shoes with a
7-foot-2 wingspan. The thing that popped off the page though was his 11-inch
hand-width. That’s essentially a Kawhi Leonard-like mark, as the former San
Diego State forward had 11 1/4-inch hands when he was at the combine back in
2011. Eason had the biggest hands at this combine. It’s hard to come up with
a more ideal frame for a combo forward than Eason’s.

Tari Eason(LSU)量出了預期中的6尺8吋穿鞋身高與7尺2吋臂展。他會出現在這裡是因為他量出了高達11吋的手掌寬度。那基本上就是Kawhi Leonard的大小程度--這名前聖地牙哥州大前鋒量出了11.25吋的大小。很難再找到一個身材條件能比他更像Eason的雙能鋒。

Overtime Elite forward Dom Barlow has drawn real interest from NBA teams
throughout this process due to his size, athleticism, length and shooting
ability. He’s definitely a project, but his measurements confirmed why he’s
a project that’s worth the investment. Barlow came in at 6-foot-10 in shoes
with a 9-foot standing reach and a 7-foot-3 wingspan. That’s even bigger
across the board than what teams expected, along with 10 1/2-inch hands. The
hype with Overtime Elite all season has been centered around Jean Montero. Itwouldn’t be a surprise to see Barlow actually be the first OTE player
selected.

Overtime菁英前鋒Dom Barlow靠著身材體能長度與投射能力吸引到了NBA球隊的注意。他絕對有料但他的體測證明為何他是個值得投資的標的。Barlow有6尺10吋的穿鞋身高,9尺的站立摸高以及7尺3吋的臂展。他還有比所有隊伍預期的還要大的10.5寸掌寬。這名來自
Overtime菁英的球員整季都圍繞著Jean Montero打球。如果Barlow成為這個計畫中第一名被NBA選中的球員我也不會意外。

A couple of other perimeter players with great length/enormous hand
combinations: Justin Lewis at Marquette was 6-foot-7 1/2 with a 7-foot-2 1/2
wingspan, along with 10 1/2-inch hands. NBA teams already had Leonard Miller’s measurements from Nike Hoop Summit, but he also came in again at 6-foot-10
with a 7-foot-2 wingspan and 10 1/2-inch hands. Guys with these kinds of
frames and perimeter-style games tend to figure it out at the NBA level at
some point in their trajectory. Think O.G. Anunoby, Jerami Grant, Christian
Wood, Pascal Siakam and others. These guys all went outside of the top 20,
but made it work at the next level. Don’t be surprised if the Barlows,
Lewises and Millers of the world end up being the next ones to do so.

有幾名外圍球員也有著值得注意的長/大手組合:馬奎特的Justin Lewis6尺7.5吋身高7尺2.5吋臂展卻有著10.5吋的掌寬。NBA球隊在Nike高峰會就已經取得Leonard Miller的體測數據,但他有著6尺10吋的身高7尺2吋的臂展與10.5吋的掌寬。這一類的球員在NBA越來越能找到他們的生涯路程。想想OG Anunoby, Jerami Grant, Christian Wood, Pascal Siakam這些球員。而這些人都不在前20順位的預測但可能可以在下一個層級發展出來。如果有更多的Barlow,Lewis及Miller打出名堂也不要感到太意外。

Some other surprises: Drew Timme came in with a plus-six wingspan, although
as referenced previously he did come in just a touch shorter than hoped at
6-foot-9 …Baylor wing Kendall Brown came in a bit shorter than expected with
a 8-foot-7 standing reach, meaning he’s much more of a three than a four
size-wise, even with his athleticism. … Purdue center Trevion Williams was
just 6-foot-8 in shoes, but he came in with a 7-foot-3 wingspan and a
9-foot-1/2 standing reach that will give him a shot to stick as a smaller,
skilled center. He also was slimmed down a bit more than expected, which was
a good sign for his continued physical improvement. … Arizona wing Dalen
Terry only measured, but he did so outstandingly with a 6-foot-7 height in
shoes and a near-7-foot-1 wingspan that will give teams hope on his
developmental pathway as a bigger guard that can slide down to the wing.

其他意外:雖然Timme只有著比預期更矮的6尺9吋身高,但他量出了+6臂展...貝勒側翼
Kendall Brown也只量出了比預期更矮的8尺7吋摸高,這也代表他比起4號身材更像一名3號即使他有這樣的體能。普渡中鋒Trevion Williams穿鞋只有6尺8吋但有著7尺三吋臂展與9尺0.5吋的站立摸高造就了他可以成為一名小一點的技巧型中鋒。他也比預期中的輕這也代表他一直在改善他的體能條件。亞利桑那側翼Dalen Terry只有參加體測,但他出色的6尺7吋身高以及7尺1吋臂展給予很多隊可以將這名大型後衛養成側翼的希望。

G League Elite Camp G League菁英訓練營

The G League Elite Camp wasn’t exactly a standout environment this year, a
likely byproduct of the NBA choosing to invite an entirely preposterous 76
players to the combine. NBA scouts came away from the event believing that
very few guys were truly NBA caliber, but it’s worth mentioning those guys.
All four of these players earned call-ups to the NBA Draft Combine itself.

G League菁英訓練營今年並不是一個好的環境而比較像NBA選完76名球員至聯合試訓之後的副產物。從這裡回來的球探認為這裡很少有球員能打上NBA但有些是值得被提到的。這些人也都爭取到了被叫上去打試訓的機會。

Marcus Sasser, Houston: Sasser was the one guy who got nearly unanimous
praise from scouts. Returning for the first time from a foot injury that madehim miss a large portion of the season, he put on a terrific shooting displayin the first scrimmage and looked like the best player. He was the one guy
most scouts thought was a genuine NBA player that had a shot at earning not
just a two-way contract, but a roster spot to start his career. Sasser is
still testing the waters and has two terrific options. Either he’ll receive
assurances that make him comfortable enough to stay in the draft, or he’ll
return to college where he’ll be a likely All-American on a Houston team
that could be the best in college hoops next season. Additionally, he’ll get
to play with a pair of freshman prospects NBA scouts will watch closely in
Jarace Walker and Terrance Arceneaux. There’s no losing for Sasser here.

Marcus Sasser, 休士頓大學:Sasser是那名得到幾乎所有球探一致稱讚的球員。在從本季腳傷回歸後,他在第一場訓練賽展現了出色的投射能力並看起來像是最棒的球員。他就是那名大部分球探認為是一名NBA球員並有機會可以獲得雙向以上的合約並在球員名單中開啟賽季。Sasser還在試水溫並有兩個很棒的選項。他可以獲得保證並安心的待在選秀或是回到休士頓大學再打一年並入選全美陣容。另外,他會得到機會與兩名新鮮人潛力新秀JaraceWalker與Terrance Arceneaux一起打球而不會因為回到大學就不會被球探給看到。他無論怎麼做都不會有損失。

Jared Rhoden, Seton Hall and Tyrese Martin, Connecticut: A pair of tough,
physical wings from the Big East who parlayed great outings at the PortsmouthInvitational into strong G League camps and combine invites. Both defended
well and attacked the basket, using mature frames to overpower some of the
younger guys at both events. Rhoden is slightly more interesting to a wider
swath of NBA teams due to his elite length, but both should expect to end up
as two-way contract players. Each of them has really helped themselves
throughout the pre-draft process.

Jared Rhoden, Seton Hall與Tyrese Martin, 康乃狄克:一對強硬且好體能來自大東聯盟的側翼從蒲資茅斯邀請賽到G League菁英訓練營都打出了出色的成績並獲得試訓邀請。兩位都有好的防守且會攻擊籃框,用成熟的條件來打爆這些比較年輕的球員。NBA球隊可能因為更好的長度比較吸引NBA球隊的興趣,但兩位應該都只會拿到雙向合約。他們都在選秀前的行程很好的提升了自己的價值。

Kenneth Lofton Jr., Louisiana Tech: Lofton showed much more perimeter game
than expected, despite being visibly overweight. The lefty’s capacity with
jab step moves from the 3-point line was particularly notable; he earned a
promotion to the main event after initially shining in the G League Elite
camp to start the week. Much like Sasser, Lofton is still testing his draft
stock. He’s also in the transfer portal and has a bevy of suitors after him.
He should probably head down that route, continue to improve his conditioning— he looked to be in better shape than he was in college this past year —
and keep expanding his game. Whereas he was more of a longshot candidate
entering this week, the flashes he showed as a ballhandler and shooter put
him more on the radar than he was prior to his efforts in Chicago.

Kennth Lofton Jr.,路易斯安那科大: Lofton展現了預期外的外圍技巧,即使他是肉眼可見的過重。這名左撇子靠著腳步在三分線吃飯的能力是值得注意的;他也靠著他在G League第一周開始的好表現贏得了前往試訓賽場的晉升門票。與Sasser相同,Lofton還在測試他的選秀行情。他也在轉學手續當中並吸引了許多追求他的學校。他也應該會繼續走轉學的路來增進他的體態--他過去大學一年身材有著顯著的進步--並擴大他在比賽的影響力。雖然他開始時比較像是一個遠投候選人但他也展現出了控球與射手的能力使他比起他去芝加哥之前更進入了NBA球探們的雷達。

心得:

懶人包:
1.魔術可能想選Chet Holmgren

2.經紀人舉辦的Showcase一點屁用也沒有 請大家乖乖參加試訓

3.本次可能會有不少交易

4.湖人省錢不找人裁DAJ不是沒有原因的

5. Jalen Williams及一些Combine打的好的球員值得注意 如同Primo一樣被早選也不要太意外 因為NBA球隊越來越重視Combine了

6. 一些體測的贏家

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目前看起來前十都不一定能拿到他 很誇張

對 這次超多人都在推這隻 很有可能會是下一個Primo然後Live串每個人都問是誰XDD

就Hollinger在當地到處道聽塗說啦 把聽起來有可行性的都整理整理這樣 像是魔術也不一定是真的要拿Chet一樣

對阿 所以大部分是著重在要讓他們參加體測而已 不然你要到選完Holmgren才能真的評估 他的受傷風險 很可怕XD

對 現在NBA球隊比起以前都狂看硬體條件跟大學 更加著重在面試 聯合試訓跟單獨試訓的 表現了 有些我們以為是跳選的可能都不是跳選 補上連結

這倒是真的 他現在感覺就是到處聽聽說說 雖然不會到溫胖那樣編故事 但分析都沒啥價值 不過他的身分聽管理層們的想法跟立場應該還是值得聽的

畢竟去年都給你看過了XDD 直接去有興趣的球隊試訓就好

主要是沒有手段可以逼他們來 畢竟不是工會的成員 資方當然是希望他們來體檢降低投資 風險的 但當然也有Giannis這種球隊選後價值才提升的例子在

正因為是小年 很多沒名氣但靜態天賦比預期好的衝上來了 今年更邪門的是每一個參加投籃測試的球員都準到靠北 有那種大學都沒在投結果狂進的中 鋒XDDDD

應該是不至於啦XD 雖然Combine會影響行情 但大致上的落點除了一些小學校球員都不會差太多

對 他轉型為Stretch 4的努力看起來是成功的

但是Hollinger的立場看起來你雷是比較想要Chet的XD

他們就是想要這麼要求的 不過可能要拖到下一次CBA才能談

應該是不會啦XD 新秀合約的薪水差很多 還是很誘人的

他的行情算是變化不大吧 比賽不錯可是體測好像扣分了

對 這樣翻感覺比較好 謝謝尼 另外一句我再想想

很難了吧XD 原本是可能只有身材 結果各項技能都有

我記得是叫Christian Koloko 一整個扯蛋XDD 他大學教練到底為甚麼不讓他投

倒也不一定是亂源 畢竟也是有Keegan Murray這種明明行情很好但完整參與的人在 如果打 了不會讓你的行情好太多甚至變差 那球員參與的意願自然低 經紀人再怎麼樣大多也只是 球員意志的延伸而已。當然,經紀人也會為了他們未來新秀客戶的吸引力而避免讓自己背上 現在客戶行情變差的責任 就會叫他們退出試訓。

對 正因為如此 作者也有提到其實球探們對於他們的表現標準是非常低的 不要有甚麼荒腔 走板的表現都不太會扣分 通常都是看看你在對抗時能做些甚麼而已 大部分身價會跌的還 是體測的部分。

老實說嗎 我覺得他行情不太妙 他上一次好好打球已經是2年前高三了 更不用說他當時的 表現高度也只到四星高中生而已 五星都不一定會有人賭了更何況是四星 他退出試訓要馬 是有球隊看上商業價值給了二輪承諾 要馬就是狀況爛到去試訓只會跌價 這對他來說並不 是甚麼好的跡象 就算是前者 對於他這名球員本身來說 真的是好的嗎?我很質疑