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[專欄] 沒人想要Djo變成最好的球員,但他可能是

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kyle5241
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作者:Sam Fels

No one wants Novak Djokovic to be the best player ever, but he might be
沒人想要Novak變成史上最好的球員,但他可能是

Djoker might be a pain, but it’s getting harder and harder to ignore him
Djoker雖然讓人討厭,但卻越來越難忽視他


When discussing tennis history, people’s tastes will always influence and
muddy debates about who’s what and the places they hold. Because it’s an
individual sport that incorporates so many styles among its players that whatone individual prefers watching will always make them lean in one direction
or another about the player that lords over the game.

當討論到網球歷史的時候,人們的喜好總是會影響並讓歷史地位的爭論進入泥巴戰。
因為這是一個個人運動,每個球員都有不同的特質,人們喜歡看的特質會讓他們
更傾向某一個特定球員並為他加冕

Because, when the argument is reduced simply to what’s on paper or what’s
tangible, there’s less and less reason to not anoint Novak Djokovic the best
of all time. Djoker racked up his second French Open today, his 19th Grand
Slam overall, leaving him one behind Rafa Nadal and Roger Federer. He beat
Nadal along the way at Roland Garros, his second win over him in that
stadium. The field has one. He has a winning record against both. He has won
every Grand Slam at least twice, something the other two can’t say. He has a
real shot at being the first to collect the calendar Grand Slam, as he’s the
defending champion at Wimbledon and he’s won three times in New York.
Assuming he doesn’t get himself tossed again, he’ll be the favoire there
too.

因為,如果僅僅是看數據的話,我們已經快要沒有藉口認為Novak不是史上最佳球員。
Djo拿到了第二個法網。他的第19座大滿貫,讓他只落後Rafa和Roger一座。
他拿冠的時候,還順便打敗了Nadal,生涯第二次在法網擊敗他。

他跟Rafa還有Roger的對戰記錄都領先,他贏了每個大滿貫至少兩次,而其他兩個人
卻無法說嘴。他有機會成為第一個全年大滿貫的人,因為他是溫布頓的衛冕者,
而他也在紐約拿了三次冠軍。只要他不再被驅逐出場,他絕對是這兩個比賽的
奪冠熱門

Djokovic also had to go into deeper water to win this tournament than ever
before, somehow escaping the clutches of the hydra Nadal in the semis in overthree hours (including the third set which some will tell you was the best
set of tennis ever played) and then coming back from down two sets to none inthe final against Stefanos Tsitsipas in over four. He hadn’t done the latter
before, and no one had ever really broken down Nadal at the French in the wayDjokovic did. The last time Djokovic beat Nadal in Paris, Nadal was having
physical issues, so it wasn’t much of a surprise then. This time, Nadal was
looking to be nearly as much on auto-pilot as he was last year when he didn’
t drop a set. As Djokovic said, beating Nadal at the French is probably the
hardest task in sports. It’s the biggest “home” advantage. It’s as if the
Islanders not only had their rabid home base but could also have the ice
surface tilt or rotate in ways to benefit them.

要贏的這個比賽,Djo必須要潛到更深的水域,他逃離了九頭蛇Nadal的爪子,
然後在0比2落後的情況下打敗7784。他之前沒有在大滿貫0:2還獲勝過,更不用說
沒有人可以在法網向Djo一樣打敗最強的Nadal。

上次Djo打敗Nadal的時候,Nadal身體有狀況,但這次,Nadal到四強的過程就像是
自動駕駛一般,跟去年一樣一盤未失。就像Djo說的,在法網打敗Nadal是所有運動
中最難的任務。畢竟Nadal有所有運動中最大的主場優勢

Once Djokovic came out on top in that third set, where each player redefined
the term (shot-making), Nadal looked beat in a way he almost never does. His
body started to give in, he looked tired, and most of all he looked resigned.This is not something that happens to a player who plays every point as if it’s his last. Nadal hit the star-button punch, missed, and then was fodder.

當Djo拿到了第三盤的時候,Nadal身上看到以前沒看過的挫敗。他的身體開始投降了,
他看起來很累,而且基本看起來不想再打了。這不是應該在一個每一分都努力到底的
球員身上看到的,因為每一分對於Nadal來說都像是最後一分。

Nadal按下去導彈按鈕,沒有命中目標,就變成了炮灰。

In the final, that effort looked like it had taken too much out of Djokovic
in the first two sets. Tsitsipas, himself having been in a near four-hour
semi, was springy and vicious, pummeling forehands and serves wherever he
wanted and lasering one-handed backhands that couldn’t help but make one
think of Federer in his pomp. He brutalized a seemingly spent Djokovic in thesecond set 6-2.

在決賽的時候,在前二盤,看起來四強的付出對Djo造成了很大的負擔。
7784,四強也打了快4小時,看起來活跳跳的,當他想要的時候,可以連續正手
或是發球得手,他的雷射反拍看起來跟費德勒一樣華麗,他狠狠的痛擊了看似乾枯的
Djo,以6-2拿下了第二盤

But the thing about Djokovic, other than his other worldly fitness levels, isthat his game doesn’t take much to correct when it goes off the boil. When
Federer starts spraying backhands, you feel like he might never get it back
and that level of precision can be a needle in a haystack to relocate. Nadal
usually breaks down physically when he does lose, and that only gets solved
by rest.

但對於Djo來說,除了他世界級的身體狀況,他的比賽要修正很容易。

當費德勒的反拍開始全壘打的時候,你會覺得他的反拍永遠不會再回來了,因為這需要
像是在大海撈針的精確度。

Nadal,當他真的輸的時候,他的身體幾乎也快不行了,而這只有靠休息才能解決

Djokovic’s game is just about clean and efficient hitting, so he just needs
to adjust the dial on his sites a click or two instead of engaging in a
massive overhaul. The tide turned in the third set’s fourth game, an
11-minute taffy pull that saw Tsitsipas fight off four break points before
succumbing to the fifth.

Djo的比賽只是乾淨和有效的揮擊,所以他只要稍微調整一下擊球目標而不需要大修。
在第三盤的第四局,反擊的浪潮出現,7784在守下四個破發點後失去了第五個。

And maybe that’s one of the big reasons only Djokovic’s most ardent fans
choose him over Federer or Nadal. Whereas Federer stands for elegance and
Nadal barely controlled fury, the defining adjective for Djokovic is
obstinance. He just leans on opponents. There aren’t defining shots, though
he’s more than capable of them as the semifinal showcased. It’s just the
repeated ground game of returns and groundstrokes hit so deep so consistentlyand watching his opponents fold up like tin foil. No one can live under that
constant drone and hum of pressure of every ball landing near their ankles,
pushing them somewhere near the concession stand when the point is over. And
the longer a match goes, the more likely Djokovic is to win. He drags
everyone to deep water, and then basically leaves them alone and watches themdrown.

這或許也是為什麼只有Djo的狂粉會選擇Djo而不是費或納。

費德勒代表的是優雅,而納達爾是控制的狂野, Djo的代表字是頑強。

他只是拖著對手,沒有太多象徵性的擊球,只是不斷地把球回深,把球打深,打到最後
看著他的對手像鋁鉑紙一樣捲起來。

在每一球都像無人機一般一直飛到你的腳邊的時候,很少有人可以活下來,最後只能
不斷地的被逼退直到這分結束(是說小卡很喜歡站在線後擊球真的剋到囧)

只要比賽越長,Djo就越可能贏,他把所有人拖到更深的水中,然後慢慢的看他們溺死

Djokovic found his second serve, wasn’t broken in the third, fourth, or
fifth set, and even for a four-hour, five set match, his win
seemed...routine. It just moved orderly to the finish, as it always seems to
do with Djokovic. He leaned and leaned on Tsitsipas until the Greek just
backed up and backed up and then fell over.

Djo在第三盤後找到了他的二發,即使在四小時,五盤的比賽中,他的勝利看起來很
公務員。比賽很有秩序的結束,好像只跟Djo有關。他不斷地像水鬼一樣拖著7784,
直到希臘人不斷地想要浮出水面,卻又沈下去

So it must be aesthetics. Djokovic is unquestionably galaxy-brained. He has
the far more interesting background than Federer or Nadal, emerging from
modest means in a war-torn country. Yet sympathy for Serbians always seems torun short. Back in the day he exhibited a sense of humor that neither of the
other two have but really only got him in trouble in tennis’s decidedly
stuffy world.

所以這或許跟美感有關。Djo跟Federer或是Nadal比背景更有趣,他來自於
被戰火摧殘的國家,但他卻很少受到同情。當他早期展現他幽默有趣的一面的而其他
兩人都沒有的時候,他反而在網球這個窒息的文化中陷入麻煩

You can tell the way he openly begs for crowd support either during or after
matches that it matters to him. That he recognizes he generates more
appreciation and respect than straight love and adulation.

你可以從他只在重要的比賽中尋求觀眾的支持看出來,在那種情況下他可以
得到更多的欣賞和尊重,而不僅僅是喜愛或是奉承

Maybe the day will come when he just is happy to have all the accomplishmentsand wins. Starting to look like he’ll have more of those than anyone else.

或許當他擁有一切的勝利和成就的時候,他會擁有比其他人更多的欣賞和尊重

心得:
Djo的比賽很簡單,就是磨
球如果打歪了要修正也不難
不斷地的磨磨到把對手的五感都失去了
就贏了

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※ 編輯: kyle5241 (114.43.71.110 臺灣), 06/14/2021 10:12:47 ※ 編輯: kyle5241 (114.43.71.110 臺灣), 06/14/2021 10:13:51

Bohr 06/14 10:15Nadal,“當”他真的輸的時候

sleeeve 06/14 10:15這篇新聞說 豆打完第三盤就不太想打了??? 真假的

※ 編輯: kyle5241 (114.43.71.110 臺灣), 06/14/2021 10:16:05 ※ 編輯: kyle5241 (114.43.71.110 臺灣), 06/14/2021 10:22:56

peter211183 06/14 10:17覺得冏還是沒以前強 當機時間越來越長

peter211183 06/14 10:18我也對中間那段質疑

k04121226 06/14 10:18考量冏跑去冥想跟年紀,當機時間長也不是太驚訝

k7202001 06/14 10:19第四盤豆就是力不從心 體力跟不上他的鬥志

tkna23 06/14 10:23看到這句"只要他不再被驅逐出場"我笑了XDDDDD

jacky6302 06/14 10:25豆應該沒有不想打 但體能已經極限了 明顯追不到

elliot15664506/14 10:26他確實值得更多人尊重 雖然我一直以來都在支持他的

elliot15664506/14 10:27對手XDD 但是看了那麼多比賽 真的佩服Djo的球技跟

elliot15664506/14 10:27心理素質

zyc1015 06/14 10:28乾溺死好可怕

zyc1015 06/14 10:29真的值得更多人尊重嗚嗚嗚

icegail 06/14 10:29不是不想打 而是力不從心的感覺

SC30mvp 06/14 10:33豆是力不從心+1

kakashi71 06/14 10:35我費迷,有一陣子真的很討厭囧一直贏XD但自從19溫後

kakashi71 06/14 10:35,對他開始充滿尊敬跟佩服

tiffany0510 06/14 10:35我囧迷我覺得囧是判斷自己體能或是各方面處於劣勢的

tiffany0510 06/14 10:35時候才會磨得很誇張,平常還好XD

ilcr 06/14 10:36囧的球技跟心理素質無庸置疑,他沒辦法吧認為偉大的

ilcr 06/14 10:36問題在人品

ilcr 06/14 10:36被認為

Boyzone 06/14 10:37只要不被逐出場XD

linkyo 06/14 10:38樓上的認識囧嗎?還人品勒

shingo 06/14 10:39Djo也很會進攻,他只是通常有機會時不會要打一槍斃

shingo 06/14 10:39命的球,不介意多兩三拍再拿下這一分繼續讓你跑,

shingo 06/14 10:39但這點年紀越大缺點暴露,現在常常過渡球沒推深,

shingo 06/14 10:39明明自己機會卻被反攻得分

tonyliu55 06/14 10:39可以說情緒化 但說一個不認識的人人品差就多了

SC30mvp 06/14 10:40笑死 人品大軍先鋒已抵達XDD

linkyo 06/14 10:40囧的情緒可是囧迷們喜歡他的一環呢

ilcr 06/14 10:40那改球品?

linkyo 06/14 10:41看囧摔拍的時候都很有喜感!!莫名想笑

ilcr 06/14 10:41沒錯啊,就跟kobe一樣:愛我或恨我

linkyo 06/14 10:42費也摔拍過很多次,球品應該也不太好

linkyo 06/14 10:42只有納從不摔拍!!球品沒話講

Taiwanbunbun06/14 10:45球品差的一堆 拿這個理由黑根本不成立 而且囧從來

Taiwanbunbun06/14 10:45不會嗆對手說對手壞話 輸球也永遠給你微笑 風度一流

Taiwanbunbun06/14 10:46還要被說假...

ilcr 06/14 10:46是因為他的比較對象是費納吧

linkyo 06/14 10:46推樓上!對手打的好也從不吝拍手

linkyo 06/14 10:47輸球了也是都笑著恭賀對方!

AJIMMY 06/14 10:48輸球都笑笑的 結果被說人品???

AJIMMY 06/14 10:48那幸運說和天氣說怎麼辦呢

Agneta 06/14 10:49看不爽他的到處都是理由啦XD

linkyo 06/14 10:49看看澳網決賽後Medvedev怎麼說囧就好

kakashi71 06/14 10:49論球品我只服豆XD但不覺得囧球品有多差

gp03dan 06/14 10:50寫得很好

linkyo 06/14 10:50不管他是700名還是前十名,對他的態度都一樣

kakashi71 06/14 10:50論情緒化 我費也蠻情緒化的XD

anous 06/14 10:51如果所謂的球品包含賽後風度,費納可能都要排在囧

anous 06/14 10:51後面一點

linkyo 06/14 10:51球員都認同囧為人了,只有球迷在那邊黑

chunhung090406/14 10:51你只要看過他打費納那種專注度真的集中到不行

chunhung090406/14 10:52對其他球員有時候專注跑掉我都覺得故意的

chunhung090406/14 10:52感覺在讓明明可以碾過去

linkyo 06/14 10:5315年法輸球的囧,頒獎時即使想哭也逼著自己笑

conanlovet 06/14 10:53Djo連幫對手鼓掌都會被說虛偽,but let them talk

SC30mvp 06/14 10:53樓上每篇都在唬爛故意故意什麼的 呵呵

linkyo 06/14 10:53雖然最後還是落淚了XD

SC30mvp 06/14 10:53我說chun大

ilcr 06/14 10:54過蠻牛之後太放鬆吧

peter211183 06/14 10:54我覺得說 球品輸納冏 身為冏迷 我不覺得不對

peter211183 06/14 10:55但我覺得冏的球品也沒到很差啊,護航不了的就是

jacky6302 06/14 10:55賽後風度的話...嘛...這個 不要說比較好XDDD

abcd575 06/14 10:56那是因爲費納把標準拉得很高

peter211183 06/14 10:56球打線審 跟武漢肺炎 其他我覺得都還好吧

peter211183 06/14 10:56特別是納吧 納從不摔拍 真的猛

jacky6302 06/14 10:56我只能說DJO的情緒都是在球場上

jacky6302 06/14 10:57但賽後的風度 我覺得囧可以爭第一

chunhung090406/14 10:57到底哪裡唬爛阿比賽呈現出來就這樣啊

Taiwanbunbun06/14 10:57我豆囧迷啦 但豆輸球幾乎沒在笑的 雖然這不是必要~

Taiwanbunbun06/14 10:57但說和費納比氣度 囧根本不輸

ilcr 06/14 10:57但最難的就是在場上控制情緒吧

AJIMMY 06/14 10:58如果是賽後風度的話...嗯...不好說

ilcr 06/14 10:587784就控制的不錯

alex0203cool06/14 10:5919溫之後真心佩服囧 也慶幸見證3巨時代

SC30mvp 06/14 10:59好啦 囧對上費納外的沒有直落二或直落三都是故意的

SC30mvp 06/14 10:59啦 他永遠都不會狀況差或臨場斷電啦 你開心就好

jacky6302 06/14 11:00囧決賽和四強非常之平穩啊 有控制很差嗎XDD

ilcr 06/14 11:00不過情緒化還是這麼強XD

SC30mvp 06/14 11:01我感覺囧在打到線審之後在場上情緒控制有更上層樓耶

tiffany0510 06/14 11:01誰管你覺得最難的是什麼啊XD至少囧就是不會輸球之後

tiffany0510 06/14 11:01賽後訪問說對手運氣好啊,如果離開賽場的風度很簡單

tiffany0510 06/14 11:01那做不到人品不就更不好,每個人都有每個人容易失控

tiffany0510 06/14 11:01的地方,抓著囧打就很莫名其妙啊

alex0203cool06/14 11:01前幾年看費紀錄要被兩人追上還會失落 現在完全不會

Taiwanbunbun06/14 11:037784昨晚落後時也大力把球往後打給球僮哦 而且大喊

Taiwanbunbun06/14 11:03碎嘴摔拍也沒少 這樣還要說控制不錯嗎?

jacky6302 06/14 11:04帶沒辦法 囧樹大招風 他呼吸都會被人說XD

ilcr 06/14 11:05跟個性有關吧,有些人就是必須把壓力釋放出來才能繼

ilcr 06/14 11:05續戰鬥

kakashi71 06/14 11:067784比較不情緒化嗎XD笑了

ilcr 06/14 11:06有些人是一直hold住打下去

kakashi71 06/14 11:06多看一些他的比賽再來說

kakashi71 06/14 11:07雖然他今年控制情緒方面有進步就是了,前年爭議也是

claudia1419 06/14 11:07那個人的推文可以不用管他了啦 他心裡的秤是歪的

kakashi71 06/14 11:07蠻多的

qazxc312 06/14 11:07賽後訪問說對手運氣好的是誰啊?真沒風度

elvis30901 06/14 11:07這些比喻蠻好笑的,尤其錫紙

ilcr 06/14 11:08那蠻牛說:今天不是我的日子,意思也是囧運氣好XD

shadowshaikh06/14 11:09囧黑還在崩潰QQ

elliot15664506/14 11:09DJO賽後表現的都很得體啊

kakashi71 06/14 11:11我覺得囧很棒的一點是比賽時當對手打出好球時,他會

kakashi71 06/14 11:11比讚或拍手

SureHappy 06/14 11:12說磨的有點外行 其實Djo的全場戰略靈活又有想法

kakashi71 06/14 11:12即使自己落後,但對手打出精彩好球時,不吝於讚美

ericchen072506/14 11:14人品大軍來了欸 輸球說別人lucky ball要不要檢討一

ericchen072506/14 11:14下 那位被造神造出來的都很有球品

joulin 06/14 11:15其實不用講那麼多 大滿貫超越 大概就是GOAT了

newsph 06/14 11:16一片歌功頌德你何必專挑損的幾句看呢?

joulin 06/14 11:16不是最受歡迎的人又如何 他就是GOAT

newsph 06/14 11:16我看版上都是稱讚居多啊

newsph 06/14 11:16GOAT紀錄上囧本就沒啥懸念不是?

peter211183 06/14 11:17我也覺得 冏迷或任何球迷都好

loveriver77706/14 11:17這篇比喻很好啊 球迷也要跟著強心臟

peter211183 06/14 11:17其實 網球版 大家討論風氣已經很好了

peter211183 06/14 11:18不用特別找幾個想黑的 來 讓自己心情不好

kaet 06/14 11:18這篇文章很生動 感謝翻譯~~

peter211183 06/14 11:18如果去NBA版 你們應該會氣死吧XDDD

Taiwanbunbun06/14 11:18n大怎麼了 不能說嗎?只要有囧的比賽黑粉不曾少過

Taiwanbunbun06/14 11:19欸 他們可以講我們不能反擊?

newsph 06/14 11:19我沒說不能說啊 我一連看了10幾篇 底下推文滿一致

Taiwanbunbun06/14 11:19但就回擊而已 也沒不爽啦~

newsph 06/14 11:20只覺得何必而已

blackpies 06/14 11:21我不覺得焦哥只有磨,接發好、反拍能掃大對角、正

blackpies 06/14 11:21拍攻擊也能兇

newsph 06/14 11:21這幾篇話題沒什麼好戰的 恭喜你囧 你愛回擊他們自便

newsph 06/14 11:22囧哥這幾場下來 尤其從Muse第三盤開始幾乎零缺點

newsph 06/14 11:22真要說似乎開賽有種測試的感覺 抓到了 怎麼打怎麼

kyleyu 06/14 11:27奇怪...囧迷不是人,一堆沒人什麼...沒人什麼?

qazxc312 06/14 11:29因為黑囧是順風,所以他們覺得沒什麼,不准囧迷回

qazxc312 06/14 11:29嘴,你去黑費納看看,那些叫你不准回嘴的馬上生氣

qazxc312 06/14 11:29跳出去回嘴

newsph 06/14 11:34囧黑一直都有 你愛戰他們就繼續跟我無關

leoncurry30 06/14 11:40GOAT考量的點本來就不單純是累積數據,NBA MLB都是

wanya37 06/14 11:42推!很有共鳴的一篇文章

ilcr 06/14 11:42影響力還是費最大?

AlohaVC 06/14 11:42囧比賽中有情緒 但賽後情緒平復一直很有風度 輸了

AlohaVC 06/14 11:42也是稱讚對手 不會有輸不起的言論

devilhades 06/14 11:45某樓是不是沒看過Federer摔拍跟罵髒話

newsph 06/14 11:47這作者形容的很好啊 尤其三人特質言簡意賅

newsph 06/14 11:47囧真的有夠頑強 頑強到你覺得可怕的那種

tco 06/14 11:48他拿冠軍真的蠻輕鬆的,未來是真的史上最佳

newsph 06/14 11:48費優雅已經老掉牙的形容 豆是有控制的狂野 很中肯

tco 06/14 11:48強大到輸了兩盤都不覺得比賽已經結束

newsph 06/14 11:49囧天賦點配置的很好 他沒有非常雷射的正手拍

newsph 06/14 11:50也沒有嚇死人的上旋 但點很平衡 沒什麼弱點

Darvish0831 06/14 11:50想要贏球的囧 覺得真的沒人擋的住

newsph 06/14 11:51然後球迷本就選擇想要的球員支持 當然更多戰績球迷

newsph 06/14 11:52保持這樣下去 幾年後球迷數反超不是不可能

Darvish0831 06/14 11:53 https://i.imgur.com/3VKnKNk.jpg

Darvish0831 06/14 11:54History tells it. 說的蠻中肯的,不得不佩服Djokov

Darvish0831 06/14 11:54ic

arthur8787 06/14 12:00囧不討厭啊 是他的父母亂放話才惹人嫌

ejnfu 06/14 12:01勸人不要回嘴沒什麼道理啦,不然如果阿羅哈大又出來

ejnfu 06/14 12:02戳豆,你也會跳出來吧 XDD 板上大部分可是都稱讚豆

ejnfu 06/14 12:02的耶

youngpaper 06/14 12:02整天戰goat不累啊,選手都沒各位那麼入魔zzz

ejnfu 06/14 12:03戰GOAT哪有什麼,國外還不是一堆在討論,主要看你是

ejnfu 06/14 12:03怎麼戰,能否提出有力的論點而已

xc03031548 06/14 12:08囧最令人感動的是即使落後也不吝給予對手好球肯定

klagalas 06/14 12:16一堆囧黑也只剩所謂的人品了 笑死

AlohaVC 06/14 12:20費的優雅原來已是老掉牙的形容 還以為費神永不退流

AlohaVC 06/14 12:20行呢 有控制的狂野就很中肯 嗯....的確今年被天氣

AlohaVC 06/14 12:20控制住了 e大 我還沒戳豆他就跳出來了 跟我無關喔X

AlohaVC 06/14 12:20D

seed800506 06/14 12:34還記得費20座時費迷GOAT喊超爽的

QOO9142 06/14 12:35費在娶妻前拍子也是狂摔的

babyoil1010 06/14 12:46喬傯不吝嗇給對手的精彩好球拍手

babyoil1010 06/14 12:46總*

babyoil1010 06/14 12:47i 大可以回去看看昨天的決賽喬打出好球後7784的手

babyoil1010 06/14 12:47

claudia1419 06/14 12:50什麼樣的手勢

newsph 06/14 12:51我說過了 我針對就是那幾個囧黑

newsph 06/14 12:51然後老掉牙我不是只費老掉牙 是這個詞已經與到爛了

newsph 06/14 12:52然後妳不斷的扯天氣是沒東西扯了嗎? 很像被電嗎?

newsph 06/14 12:52妳大概對文字的理解很有限 我很同情你

newsph 06/14 12:53e你要回嘴你家的事 我沒說過你不行 你愛去就去

mike200801 06/14 12:53federer輸goat又無損他的偉大....

newsph 06/14 12:54阿嘍哈早就是聲名狼藉的豆黑

mike200801 06/14 12:54給喬科拿又沒差,因為影響力最大一直是費

newsph 06/14 12:56然後控制的狂野到底誰是主詞阿嘍哈都搞不清楚

newsph 06/14 12:56你的推文只幼兒園程度想引戰嗎?

HsiangFly 06/14 13:19三十年後人們第一個提到的一定是拿最多大滿貫的

AlohaVC 06/14 13:26嘻嘻 我出來前你就在引戰了 聲名狼藉你比我有過之

AlohaVC 06/14 13:26而不及 這點我認輸 人家形容豆就中肯 怎麼費的優雅

AlohaVC 06/14 13:26就變老掉牙 第一次聽到有人用老掉牙形容費的優雅

AlohaVC 06/14 13:26大概也只有你會這樣XDDD

newsph 06/14 13:33唉 你除了故意曲解還有什麼招?你這人就這點料?

newsph 06/14 13:34這裏誰不知道你是愛耍賴的豆黑?被糾正打臉只會跳針

newsph 06/14 13:34等等又要繼續跳針了 跟你這種人解釋也是多餘

newsph 06/14 13:35你這人的評論呢 只看風向所以我並不意外

newsph 06/14 13:35趕快趁機巴結好你的囧迷主子吧

newsph 06/14 13:36阿 另外 能夠黑豆你也是無所不用其極 Good luck百

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:44球品? 你知道big3只有囧會在對手擊出好球的時候拍手

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:44給予致敬嗎? 光這點就是非常高尚的行為

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:45光是這場打7784就拍了好幾次

peter5214 06/14 13:46其實納豆也會啦,只是動作上囧是特別大的在拍手

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:47球品最差其實是費,早期年輕就是摔拍狂魔,一場不摔

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:47個一兩次不過癮。中期就開始爆走,那時候網球剛

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:48開始引進鷹眼,誰都知道費對鷹眼超級不爽,那時候開

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:48使因為鷹眼問題每場都要跟裁判嗆上半天,這段也是費

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:49最常被攻擊的時候。現在年紀大了收斂不少,球品好多

vvvvaaaa 06/14 13:50了。豆則是沒話講,球品很好沒甚麼黑歷史

newsph 06/14 13:52這三人都是紀錄堆越高球品越好

kiwihou 06/14 13:54球品好我只服納豆XD

Ace100 06/14 13:58DJO抗壓性跟心理素質是外星人等級

peter5214 06/14 14:05輸球風度我只服囧

pennykidd 06/14 14:10費是腳步的運用讓人感覺很優雅 納是狂野的力量派

pennykidd 06/14 14:12而喬感覺是橡皮人加上逆境的心理素質 非常頑強

crazyke313 06/14 14:12寫的真好 但身為豆迷還是很難過QQ

hongraon 06/14 14:59輸球風度真的是DJO NAL最好,尤其DJO打再爛場上各種

hongraon 06/14 14:59哀號怒吼自己,輸了一瞬間馬上變成柔情似水(?)抱緊

hongraon 06/14 14:59對手XDDD連15年輸小卡,或是Murray首都也沒看他臭臉

hongraon 06/14 14:59

namie1010 06/14 15:04看到Djoker令人討厭就只能給噓了

Agneta 06/14 15:08囧在逆境中的心理素質真的超級強大

bolijung 06/14 15:09推原作者跳脫自己無偏見

mercurychen 06/14 15:37黑粉很喜歡講球品 是因為輸到只剩球品可以嘴了嗎XD

mercurychen 06/14 15:38再者論球品只服納豆吧 另一位根本也沒多好

depo 06/14 15:46費最後摔拍子好像是2009

Zombieslayer06/14 16:29改比網球品勢阿

Joybena 06/14 16:31球品、人品最棒只有豆!一世紀也就這一個!

ar109982 06/14 16:42四強我看豆也有拍手阿,只是沒有囧這麼明顯

Makaay 06/14 17:04黑囧產業鏈

Safin 06/14 19:31囧黑好可憐

harry881210 06/14 19:45網球板真的是算風氣好了

Elaine1211 06/14 19:48囧真的厲害 是球王 但不是最好的網球選手

XXPLUS 06/14 20:33球球壓線哪裡是磨?根本就是神技,壓線的比出界多耶

wayne77925 06/14 21:07我不覺得最好的網球選手會是PTT鄉民說了算XD

Elaine1211 06/14 21:40現役球王本來就不等於最好的網球選手 呵呵

wayne77925 06/14 21:58對~創了一堆紀錄對戰又領先其他人都不算什麼嘛~反正

wayne77925 06/14 21:59你不喜歡就不是嘛~OK的!

linsingpark 06/14 23:36#1WnacSiX (Tennis) 歡迎各位囧黑到這篇幫忙補充

Elaine1211 06/15 00:57額原來說實話只能被指說不喜歡放大絕跟歸類某球員

Elaine1211 06/15 00:57黑...終於見識到了!

wayne77925 06/15 01:32你為什麼覺得你說的就一定是實話呢??

ryanwen 06/15 08:59就無敵防守盾,怎麼樣都打不穿,然後對手就失誤了

tonyliu55 06/17 13:28回wayne大 球王是不是最好的選手本來就是要看是不是

tonyliu55 06/17 13:28自己喜歡的選手嘛:) 就像紀錄重不重要也是要看是

tonyliu55 06/17 13:28不是自己支持的球員創下的~