[情報] 韓職工會會長選舉:當選者不想接任

zxc906383 發表於 2022/11/29 上午9:50:54

看板Baseball標題[情報] 韓職工會會長選舉:當選者不想接任作者

(無無)時間Nov 29 09:50:54 2022推噓43 推:44 噓:1 →:57

The election for the next Korean Professional Baseball Players Association (Athlete Association) has been invalidated. An emergency meeting of the board of directors is planned to be held as an unprecedented situation in which the person with the most votes is withdrawn from the presidency.

近期韓職工會進行會長選舉

結果最高票當選球員不想當

Yang Eui-ji, president of the Athletes Association, who was elected two years ago, will step down after completing his two-year term. In order to select the next president of the Athletes Association to succeed Chairman Yang Eui-ji, the Athletes Association board of directors formed a candidate for the presidential election based on the top 20 annual salaries in the league. It was a different standard from when Yang Eui-ji was elected as president, when three players with the highest salary in each team were automatically included in the presidential election candidates.

An official from the Athletes Association said, “Two years ago, the board of directors judged that it was too many people to put a total of 30 people in the presidential election candidates, including the top three in each team’s annual salary. He said, “I expected that narrowing down the vote to the top 20 playersin the league would more accurately reflect the vote, so I voted for the next Athletes Association president.”

目前韓職工會會長是梁義智

而今年候選制度有改變，上次是各隊年薪前三高球員，共計30位

這次則改為全聯盟前20高薪

The Athletes Association should focus on discussing with the KBO and clubs overthe reintroduction of the second draft along with the abolition of the four-year FA reacquisition period during the off-season this winter. Even though there are so many things to do, it is absolutely not a positive sign that the vacancy of the next president of the Athletes Association is getting longer.

這個季末工會要和聯盟討論二次選秀(韓國規則五)的回歸

以及想廢除自由球員資格再取得要四年這規則

Veteran player A said, “I don’t know if it is right for only super-high-paid people to become candidates for the presidential election. Whether the annual salary is 50 million won or 100 million won, shouldn't a player who can show sincerity for the rights of the players rise to the position of president? Like the Major League Players Union, I think retired players can take over as president. Apparently, super-high-income earners have a lot of roles and responsibilities within the team. There are many realistic aspects that cannot be focused only on the Athletes’ Association,” he pointed out.

有資深球員認為好像不應該用年薪來決定候選者

Player A continued, “I personally can’t make it into the top 20 in the league’s annual salary, but if I am asked to be the president, I have the heart to work really hard. He raised his voice, saying, “It is not a position that I wantto end after simply completing my two-year term, but a position that needs to be trusted enough to be told to re-appoint me.”

資深球員:我年薪排不進全聯盟前20，但如果我被選為會長，會非常認真做呀

The Athletes Association plans to hold an emergency board of directors meeting on December 1st to consider measures to deal with the results of the election for the next president. It is expected that there will be discussions not only on future re-elections, but also on essential issues regarding the structure of theelection of the president

工會將在12/1開會討論下一步

預期除了討論重新舉辦選舉外

也會討論整個選舉機制

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ji4mp611/29 09:53我以為出來選的都是要自願的

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ericinttu11/29 09:54原來還有不願役這種制度啊

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polanco11/29 09:54時機不對？

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ccl00711/29 09:54這是韓國版的時機若對?

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fireforce11/29 09:57為什麼韓職高薪才能候選啊？

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Concorde14411/29 10:04原來是韓國，我還以為是花蓮國

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sdd542611/29 10:04跟學生選幹部一樣

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iwinlottery11/29 10:07衛生股長喔

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AAaaron11/29 10:13可能投票那天他沒來？

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AAaaron11/29 10:14看來他沒有一絲一毫喜悅..

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satoranbo11/29 10:15薪水高≠會做事欸這選舉方式有問題吧XD

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Isveia11/29 10:19怎麼會用這種方式選主席... 就好像只有各班前三名才能參加

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Isveia11/29 10:19學生會長的選舉一樣，又不是功課好管理能力也一定跟著好..

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NYYsucks11/29 10:23韓國富里鄉

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LSLLtu11/29 10:25韓國富里

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hackfox11/29 10:25還以為是花蓮某鄉長

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johnwu11/29 10:26有既視感(?)

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kkkandy11/29 10:29薪水高，講話份量比較大啊，找個資深小咖很難搞定球團吧

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suzhou11/29 10:37主要是要協助找經費譬如春訓前的自主訓練補助

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suzhou11/29 10:37低薪選手這幾年都靠工會協助聘訓練員

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suzhou11/29 10:38被當選的人不一定有意願跟心力去找這些贊助

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ultratimes11/29 10:39薪水高講話份量大？林智勝表示

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honglu58765411/29 10:41薪水高真的不等於會做事

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suzhou11/29 10:41對了不應該翻譯主席內文正確名稱是會長

感謝已修正

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catsondbs11/29 10:42台灣又領先

※ 編輯: zxc906383 (220.129.193.216 臺灣), 11/29/2022 10:43:14

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s2712980411/29 10:43一定有比薪水更適合的標準用薪水太懶了吧XD

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aifighter11/29 10:49年資還比較合理吧

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ccl00711/29 10:50不然用WAR喔? 還是MVP得票數? 票多的當?

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phants11/29 10:53可能沒人願意，或願意的都太小咖才搞出這奇葩制度

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suzhou11/29 10:55薪水其實合理只是範圍要擴大

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suzhou11/29 10:56通常沒拿到FA年資之前薪水就是偏低也沒話語權跟資方談

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suzhou11/29 10:58薪水高的通常也會找很好的經紀人相關法務團隊才能協助

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ccl00711/29 10:58但有FA年資後幾年又怕突然隔年衰退 OPS+低於90的高薪打者

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ccl00711/29 10:59不知道為什麼打者很容易到一定年紀球都看不到了雖然有辦法

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suzhou11/29 10:59工會的角色脫離不了在勞動法層面去談勞資問題

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ccl00711/29 10:59擊球打安打後還是會露出不甘心的表情這要我以前的話

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suzhou11/29 11:00沒差啊衰退只要合約期間內當小偷照樣能講話大聲

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suzhou11/29 11:00韓國工會歷任會長出過好幾個領乾薪不練球專心搞談判XD

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suzhou11/29 11:01韓國的社會運作體制就是前輩要敢出來大小聲

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ccl00711/29 11:10也是啦韓國社交小常識先問幾歲那高國慶應該穩會長的XDDD

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MrHeat11/29 11:12大學長躺著也中槍XD

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lym071511/29 11:12韓國怎麼會想出這種奇葩選舉方式笑死

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lym071511/29 11:13民主國家結果想出用薪水來判斷是否有資格爛死

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lon062311/29 11:18薪水高發言權才高啊，怎麼會以為頭頭要比較會做事

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lon062311/29 11:18你知道之前韓職根本不理工會嗎？

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l23456789O11/29 11:19韓國這是財團思維吧越有錢就越有力

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lon062311/29 11:20是因為李承燁加入聯盟才怕了

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d0611/29 11:24領最高薪還會有心跟球團跟聯盟爭取權益嗎??

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Ec73Iwai11/29 11:25韓職懲罰大賽XD

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Ec73Iwai11/29 11:26高國慶這樣也中槍XDD

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chdc11/29 11:26高薪表示大咖出怪聲球團比較不敢讓你沒工作吧

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chdc11/29 11:28中職工會這種只會發球團不理的聲明才真的像擺設

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lym071511/29 11:33啊如果有人薪水高一直說時機若對大家陪他一起等是不是

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lym071511/29 11:33薪水高等於格局高？等於決策能力好？

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suzhou11/29 11:36在韓國那種社會結構前輩沒有前輩的樣子瞬間社死XD

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suzhou11/29 11:37別忘了李大浩當過一任會長當到生涯後期被球迷罵翻

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kyowinner11/29 11:38這選舉資格也太奇怪了吧

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suzhou11/29 11:38李大浩就是任內態度不夠硬事後連他的律師也被查帳

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chuegou11/29 11:38依照年資我理解依照年薪怪怪的

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suzhou11/29 11:40年薪正常啊有大合約在身上才敢講話不怕隔年沒工作

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lym071511/29 11:46年資才正常吧再打沒幾年不用擔心沒工作反正快退休了

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asdzxc166211/29 11:48韓國富里鄉長

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suzhou11/29 11:4935+的高年資講話太大聲反而容易隔年沒工作啊

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lon062311/29 11:50事實就是如此阿，會不會做事再找律師幫忙就好

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suzhou11/29 11:51像這屆梁義智他就有一堆球團捧約他也能做好會長職

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suzhou11/29 11:53韓國工會最經典的就是孫敏漢當兩任任期間就是薪水小偷

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zxc90638311/29 11:53老梁要不要繼續當XD

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zxc90638311/29 11:53養老六年約到手了

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suzhou11/29 11:54孫簽下第一張大約就開始當結果隔年長期受傷開始搞資方

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suzhou11/29 11:55老梁今年要想辦法幫老李避免戰績太難看

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lon062311/29 11:55你覺得蔡鎮宇這種當理事長，再會做事球團會理他嗎？

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suzhou11/29 11:57另外工會前提是需要現役選手所以要確保任期有合約在手

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suzhou11/29 11:58只是找有年資的但如果兩年一任第二年失業就要改選了

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lon062311/29 11:58都畢業多久了還那麼天真阿

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suzhou11/29 11:59這也是為何韓國歷任最小倫的都是合約簽長長受傷反而很閒

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lon062311/29 12:03我如果是老闆，看到蔡鎮宇來談判，就直接趕出去

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lon062311/29 12:05韓國老闆也是很討厭工會的好嗎

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lon062311/29 12:07至於決策，你覺得這些理事長會長真的有在鑽研法條嗎？

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hohohohohoka11/29 12:28該不會他們的會長有需要自己花錢做事吧

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lon062311/29 12:34花錢做事對他們來說還更簡單吧？他們訓練都那麼忙了

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ahuahala11/29 12:34時機不對啦

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lon062311/29 12:35法條都是很專業的東西，請專門的不是更好嗎

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dm0311/29 13:20球員工會還是要球員來當啦只是有些人就是不擅長當這種領頭

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dm0311/29 13:21應該是要先看那個名額裡有沒有人自願比較好吧

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BBOYstyle1011/29 14:13法條是專業的東西，但職業工會要是從業人員才能加入

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BBOYstyle1011/29 14:14所以球員工會理事長必須是有號召力以及有腦袋的

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BBOYstyle1011/29 14:15腦袋的部分可以由經紀人代為協助

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BBOYstyle1011/29 14:15但號召力就很吃球員的人際關係以及魅力

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Cathay11/29 14:32用薪水決定還蠻奇怪的，那應該納入洋將啊

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Cathay11/29 14:32高薪的人政治德性不一定高

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chdc11/29 15:25高薪只是有被選舉權不是高薪者直接當啊還是要投票總不會

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chdc11/29 15:25提名的20人都是爛的

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ericinttu11/29 15:47這種不志願的投票不是人緣好的上就是人緣差的上

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ericinttu11/29 15:47國小投票選什麼長的還沒投過逆

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suzhou11/29 16:58洋將又沒加入工會... 台日韓洋將都不在當地工會之下

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suzhou11/29 16:59華航之前罷工外籍空服員是照常執勤的沒加入本國工會

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NTUOnline11/29 17:28因為年薪前20高 = 有名氣.有實力

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NTUOnline11/29 17:28不然如果太小咖當會長,資方會理嗎?

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NTUOnline11/29 17:29法條根本不是問題,因為工會底下會請律師...

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NTUOnline11/29 17:29(或者台灣說的法案助理)

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NTUOnline11/29 17:30會長只是代表全體球員來發聲的

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bypetty11/29 23:54高薪中生代不會想當啦吃力不討好勞資兩邊都是

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