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[爆卦] ivermectin 的機轉研究上了nature的子期

看板Gossiping標題[爆卦] ivermectin 的機轉研究上了nature的子期作者
MPDK
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時間推噓 7 推:15 噓:8 →:29

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00430-5

原文如上,小弟高一之後就沒在讀生物了,不過英文還是看得懂

就introduction 內容看來,這個藥感覺可以寄與厚望(如果我讀錯了歡迎打臉我),也開?

至於裡面內容到底是什麼,有沒有回答了是不是真的有證實在機轉上,此藥可行,我就看不

稍微翻譯一下我看到覺得讓人興奮的一段好了,完全不負責任翻譯。

Several doctor-initiated clinical trial protocols that aimed to evaluate outcomes, such as reduction in mortality figures, shortened length of intensive care unit stay and/or hospital stay and elimination of the virus with ivermectin use have been registered at the US ClinicalTrials.gov [7].
已經有幾個臨床實驗正式申請,且在進行中,想知道此藥可不可以降低死亡率,待在醫院時間,或是消滅病毒。
Real-time data is also available with a meta-analysis of 55 studies to date.
其中有55個有即時資料
As per data available on 16 May 2021, 100% of 36 early treatment and prophylaxis studies report positive effects (96% of all 55 studies).
早期投藥以及預防有正面效果

Of these, 26 studies show statistically significant improvements in isolation.其中有26個有非常顯著的正面效果

Random effects meta-analysis with pooled effects using the most serious outcome reported 79% and 85% improvement for early treatment and prophylaxis respectively (RR 0.21 [0.11–0.37] and 0.15 [0.09–0.25]).
隨機性分析有正面效果

The results were similar after exclusion based sensitivity analysis: 81% and 87% (RR 0.19 [0.14–0.26] and 0.13 [0.07–0.25]), and after restriction to 29 peer-reviewed studies: 82% and 88% (RR 0.18 [0.11–0.31] and 0.12 [0.05–0.30]).
即使拿到比較不嚴謹的實驗 也有很好的結果

Statistically significant improvements were seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance. 100% of the 17 Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) for early treatment and prophylaxis report positive effects, with an estimated improvement of 73% and 83% respectively (RR 0.27 [0.18–0.41] and 0.17 [0.05–0.61]), and 93% of all 28 RCTs.
所謂三期隨機實驗也有很好的效果

These studies are tabulated in Table 1. The probability that an ineffective treatment generated results as positive for the 55 studies to date is estimated to be 1 in 23 trillion (p = 0.000000000000043). The consistency of positive results across a wide variety of cases has been remarkable. It is extremely unlikely that the observed results could have occurred by chance [8].
而且看起來不像是運氣好的結果

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andy199113 06/19 00:22看不懂

infoman 06/19 00:24tire1

※ 編輯: MPDK (118.169.208.157 臺灣), 06/19/2021 00:35:39

ev331 06/19 00:24記者去生一篇讓大家看得懂

King5566 06/19 00:25五樓請翻譯

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puretruthson 06/19 00:27不客氣

speeddd 06/19 00:29不用大驚小怪的好嗎...

l75cm 06/19 00:30你英文看得懂,讀得懂 為什麼不翻譯給大家?

s505015 06/19 00:30簡單說他們覺得這可以抑制細胞激素

s505015 06/19 00:31看圖大概就好了

s505015 06/19 00:31會抑制一堆發炎相關

s505015 06/19 00:31像NFkb

TISH12311 06/19 00:32印度仔不可信拉

s505015 06/19 00:32還有ifn no 一堆ckemokine

s505015 06/19 00:32chemokine

l75cm 06/19 00:32你以為大家英文/專業程度跟你一樣好??

rc001968 06/19 00:32再怎樣找證據力也不會高於黨推的清冠一

rc001968 06/19 00:32

chxx 06/19 00:32廢文,不懂什麼叫tier 1不要亂講

rc001968 06/19 00:35 https://i.imgur.com/M3VzWRx.jpg

MPDK 06/19 00:38我還真不懂生物的期刊分類

s505015 06/19 00:40可以查 而且大部分是用q1

swommy 06/19 00:40這機轉就是先阻擋ace-2 還有是老藥了 要

swommy 06/19 00:40做藥動學可以比較快

MPDK 06/19 00:41我是看國外推友用 我就跟著用 不過都是指頂

MPDK 06/19 00:41尖期刊的意思吧

swommy 06/19 00:41看不懂的用chrome開 然後翻譯啦

MPDK 06/19 00:42所以就是病毒需要ace-2但是這個藥會把ace-2

MPDK 06/19 00:43關起來的意思吧

flyeagle1978 06/19 01:01簡單說 IVM會抑制病毒接上ACE2所產

flyeagle1978 06/19 01:01生的發炎反應並且活化身體的抗病毒

flyeagle1978 06/19 01:01機制 並減少病毒複製

potionx 06/19 01:11點進去原始網頁看就知道引用的資料超級多

potionx 06/19 01:12原PO節錄的只是一小段

potionx 06/19 01:15我光按pagedown就要30下 才到參考的開頭

jnecoj 06/19 01:22綠粉焦急噓

tdjpl 06/19 01:24這是review paper…..

sdbb 06/19 01:32汪汪隊立大功

lain2002 06/19 01:36水很深

yogurtbass 06/19 02:58怎麼有人把網頁當正文啊......referen

yogurtbass 06/19 02:58ce看完再發文好嗎?

nzj 06/19 07:06ivermectin已在很多疾病或病毒研究過,所以

nzj 06/19 07:06這藥的分子機制早就被提出來,而這篇文章只

nzj 06/19 07:06是根據臨床資料推測這藥在SARS-CoV-2的可能

nzj 06/19 07:06機制

pttjoe 06/19 07:09藥商腦筋動得快的話,應該知道要做什麼了

drlee1231 06/19 07:34蟑螂很急著噓喔!怕主子的疫苗股票跌停

SRadiant 06/19 09:11其實你看完第一段,就告訴你答案了,還

SRadiant 06/19 09:11在做研究,尚無定論,不是嗎?

SRadiant 06/19 09:11不然他們幹嘛做臨床研究XD

stja 06/19 12:28