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A strange and strained summer of negotiation could’ve alienated Jonathan Kuminga from all important facets of the Warriors, but he seems more connected than ever to everyone in this franchise.

經歷一個波折與緊繃的夏天談判,本可能讓 Jonathan Kuminga 與勇士隊的重要成員產生隔閡,但他現在看起來反而比以往任何時刻都更融入這支球隊。

A tangle of conflicting signals about his place with the team and his interest in finding a larger role elsewhere could’ve made Kuminga something of a nonentity in the locker room and in Steve Kerr’s planning, with a ticking countdown for his eventual exit.

關於他在球隊中的定位,以及他是否想在別處尋求更大的角色,曾出現許多相互矛盾的訊號。這些混亂本可能讓 Kuminga 在更衣室與 Steve Kerr 的戰術規劃中被邊緣化,並且啟動離隊的倒數計時。

But Kuminga seems happier and more plugged into Kerr’s ethos and guidelines —by a factor of 100 — than at any time in his complicated Warriors career. It just seems simpler: He’s good, he’s maturing, he gets minutes, he plays well, he fits in, he’s trusted.

但 Kuminga 現在看起來比他在勇士生涯中的任何時刻都更快樂、更契合 Kerr 的信念與方針——簡直高出一百倍。現在一切都變得更簡單:他狀態好、正在成熟、有穩定上場時間、表現出色、融入球隊,並且獲得信任。

Yes, at least for now, this seems to be the rarest of NBA developments: What looked like something that would tear things apart has actually created a healthy dynamic for a team that remains unilaterally focused on winning one more title in the Stephen Curry era.

沒錯,至少目前看來,這是NBA裡極為罕見的情況:原本看似會讓球隊分崩離析的事件,反而塑造出一種健康的氛圍,讓這支仍全心追逐「Stephen Curry 時代再奪一冠」的球隊更加團結。

“I wouldn’t want to be the problem to mess it up,” Kuminga told me in the locker room after Tuesday’s victory over the Clippers. “I’m growing. I’m in my
fifth year now. I know what winning means. And I know what I want to get — winning a championship.

「我不想成為那個把一切搞砸的問題人物,」Kuminga 在週二擊敗快艇後於更衣室中對我說。「我正在成長,這已經是我的第五個賽季了。我知道贏球意味著什麼,也知道自己想要的是什麼——奪得冠軍。」

“There is no bad blood or anything like that. I don’t think there was ever bad blood. It’s just all the narrative, all the talking around outside. But we’re good. We’re good.”

「沒有什麼恩怨或矛盾。我不覺得我們之間有過什麼問題。那些只是外界的說法、外界的討論而已。我們很好,真的很好。」

Kuminga was smiling as he said this but clearly miffed that he had to utter thewords; that anybody presumed he would sign his two-year, $48 million deal (withonly this year’s $23.5 million guaranteed) and not come back committed to whatever helps the team win games.

Kuminga 在說這番話時笑著,但顯然對於必須親口澄清這些事感到有些不滿——畢竟,有人竟然認為他簽下兩年4,800萬美元的合約(其中只有今年的2,350萬美元是保障薪資)後,會不再全心投入球隊、幫助勇士贏球。

But it’s not just that Kuminga has been such a good teammate since signing thedeal late last month — then turning 23 a few weeks later — it’s that he has played so efficiently and so thoughtfully in these first five games.

但重點不只是他在上月底簽約、幾週後滿23歲以來,展現身為優秀隊友的態度;更在於他在本季前五場比賽中打得極其高效且高球商。

It’s that Kerr, who dropped Kuminga from the rotation late last season and into the playoffs because he didn’t fit with the new Jimmy Butler kinetic wave, couldn’t ask for more. And Kerr has wisely rewarded Kuminga by putting him and keeping him in the starting lineup to start this season next to Curry, Butler, andDraymond Green (with a floating fifth spot).

而 Kerr——上季末及季後賽期間因 Kuminga 不適應球隊引進的Jimmy Butler 體系而將他排除輪替——如今對他的表現再滿意不過。Kerr 也明智地給予他回報,讓他在本季與 Curry、Butler 和 Draymond Green 一同擔任先發(第五人位置則依情況調整)。

“He’ll be our starter going forward,” Kerr said of Kuminga before Tuesday’s
game. “He’s been fantastic. Last night put him on Ja [Morant]. Tonight, we’ll put him on James Harden.

「從今天起,他會是我們的先發之一。」Kerr 在週二賽前談到 Kuminga 時說:「他表現得非常出色。昨晚我們讓他去防 Ja(Morant),今晚他要防 James Harden。」

“I think he’s ready to take on that role defensively. And what he’s doing offensively, the decision-making, the shot-selection. We’ve hardly seen any of the mid-shot-clock 17-foot pull-ups. We’ve seen him being much more focused on getting the ball to Jimmy, getting the ball to Steph, attacking the rim. He’s really putting a lot of pressure on people.

「我認為他已經準備好承擔這個防守角色。而在進攻端,他的決策、投籃選擇都成熟許多。我們幾乎沒再看到那種進攻時間還充裕就急著拔中距離的出手。他現在更專注於把球傳給 Jimmy、傳給 Steph,或直接攻向籃框。他真的在給對手施加壓力。」

“The biggest thing is the combination of Jimmy and Draymond and JK wasn’t great last year. But because of all the improvements that JK has made, his passing and stuff I just mentioned, it’s really clicking.”

「最重要的是,去年 Jimmy、Draymond 和 JK 的組合效果並不好,但隨著 JK 的進步——包括我剛提到的傳球與判斷力——現在整體的化學反應變得非常順暢。」

Kuminga had a quiet game (compared to his first four) Tuesday, but in its way, his performance was more subtle and even more important because it’s so sustainable.

Kuminga 在週二的表現相對平靜(和前四場相比),但某種程度上更細膩,也更關鍵,因為這樣的表現更能長久維持。

He didn’t get as many touches or shots, but he kept doing the little and medium things that mean so much to the Warriors. Grabbing loose balls. Hounding Harden on defense. Passing to cutters. Just running. Never looking impatient. Never getting yanked out of the game by Kerr after a bad mistake.

他這場沒有太多出手機會,但仍在做許多對球隊而言非常重要的「小事」與「中事」:搶地板球、防守時緊盯 Harden、傳球給切入的隊友、全場奔跑。他從不顯得不耐煩,也不會因為一個失誤就被 Kerr 馬上換下場。

But Kuminga later emphasized that he’s just fine if Kerr barks at him for an error. In fact, Kuminga said he’s told Kerr that he wants to be held accountable, to be told directly, to be able to talk about it, and to sit on the bench for a while when and if these things happen.

但 Kuminga 隨後強調,就算 Kerr 吼他、指出錯誤,他也完全沒問題。事實上,他說自己主動要求 Kerr 對他更嚴格,犯錯時要直接指出,必要時甚至可以讓他坐板凳反省。

“I think we’re just staying on top of communications, me and him — things that I feel or see out there or things that he sees,” Kuminga said. “Our communication has been great, figuring out things.

「我覺得我跟他現在的溝通非常順暢——無論是我在場上看到什麼、感覺到什麼,或是他看到的事情。」Kuminga 說:「我們之間的溝通真的很好,能一起想辦法解決問題。」

“I remember some of the things I’ve told him before, like, ‘I’d love you to
coach me as hard as you can. Just coach me. Just don’t go away from me, just coach me. No matter the circumstance. I do something bad that I don’t need to do, don’t go away from me. Come tell me that. If you don’t tell me in the middleof the game, send somebody. I want that word coming from you.’

「我記得我以前就跟他說過:『我希望你能用最嚴格的方式來指導我。你就直接教我,不要放棄我,不要躲開我,不管發生什麼事。當我做錯事時,不要疏遠我,要直接來告訴我。如果你不能在比賽中馬上說,就派別人來傳話。我希望那句話是從你來的。』

“I’m not going out there trying to do much. There is nights where they’re going to want me to do more and do what I can do. But there’s nights like today, just go out there and do what you’ve gotta do, no matter what’s going on, and stay positive and move on.”

「我不會在場上刻意去做太多事。有些夜晚球隊會需要我多做一些、展現能力,但也有像今天這樣的比賽——就是上場、做好該做的事,不管發生什麼事都保持積極,繼續向前。」

I asked Kuminga: Did you and Kerr maybe need all the summer drama to figure outhow much you guys needed to clear the air?
“For what?” Kuminga shot back.

我問 Kuminga:「你覺得這個夏天那些風波,是否讓你和 Kerr 有機會釐清彼此之間需要溝通的地方?」
「為什麼要釐清?」Kuminga 反問。

About your role and whether he believes in you.

「關於你的角色,或是他是否信任你。」

“I said when I first started talking to you, I told you that I just wanted himto push me more, harder,” Kuminga said. “There is nothing about ‘believing,’
anything about roles, none of that.

「如同我剛剛說的,我只希望他能更嚴格地督促我。」Kuminga 說道。「這跟『信任不信任』、或『角色定位』完全沒有關係。」

“You said, ‘Did we have to clear anything?’ There was nothing to clear. There is no problem between me and Steve. That’s my coach, and I’m his player. I come in every day to win. He’s going to push me hard, and that’s how we’re going to keep going to help the team win.”

「你問我們是否需要『釐清問題』?根本沒有什麼要釐清的。我和 Steve 之間沒有問題。他是我的教練,我是他的球員。我每天進來就是為了贏球。他會嚴格要求我,而我們也會繼續這樣下去,幫助球隊取得勝利。」

The results so far are undeniable. Let’s go through some of them.

目前成果無庸置疑。以下是幾項具體數據。

‧ The Warriors weren’t in love with the grueling pace of games to start this season — five in eight days, including two back-to-backs, but they got through it with a 4-1 record, including going 2-0 against the Clippers and Lakers after going 1-7 against the L.A. teams last season.

‧ 勇士並不特別喜歡這季開賽初段那種緊湊的賽程——八天五戰,其中還有兩次背靠背—
—但他們仍打出 4 勝 1 負的戰績,尤其在對上洛杉磯雙雄(快艇與湖人)時 2 勝 0 負,上季他們對這兩隊的戰績是慘淡的 1 勝 7 負。

With Kuminga at full force, suddenly they can tap into his energy at almost anypoint of the game, a key part of at least two or three of these wins.

有了 Kuminga 的全力發揮,球隊現在幾乎在任何時刻都能從他的能量中受益——這至少是其中兩三場勝利的關鍵要素。

‧ Kuminga is averaging a career-high 30.2 minutes per game but taking only 10.8 shots per, lower than the previous two seasons, when he played a lot less — and averaging a career-high 16.2.

‧ Kuminga 本季場均上場時間達生涯新高的 30.2 分鐘,但每場出手僅 10.8 次,比他上季(出場時間更少時)還低;然而場均得分卻是生涯新高的 16.2 分。

‧ He’s shooting 52.7% overall, 43.8% from 3-point distance, which is far above his career 33.5% career rate. He’s also taking fewer 3s — one less per 36 minutes than he did last season.

‧ 他的整體命中率為 52.7%,三分命中率高達 43.8%,遠超過他生涯平均的 33.5%。而且他出手三分的次數比上季還少,每 36 分鐘少投約一球。

‧ Kuminga is averaging 7.4 rebounds per game, far above his career 4.1 reboundaverage.

‧ Kuminga 場均抓下 7.4 個籃板,遠高於生涯平均的 4.1 個。

It’s showing up most significantly on the all-important defense glass, where his rebound rate is up to 21%, from a career rate of 14.7%.

這特別體現在防守籃板上——他的防守籃板率已提升到 21%,相較於生涯平均的 14.7% 有顯著進步。

‧ So far this season, his usage rate is a relatively moderate 21.6%. Last season, one of Kerr’s problems was that Kuminga had one of the highest rates in theleague even in a supposed supplementary role: 27.4%. (For comparison, Curry’s usage rate was 29.8%, and Butler’s was 20.6% during his Warriors stint last season.)

‧ 目前為止,他的使用率是相對適中的 21.6%。而在上個賽季,Kerr 的一個問題是 Kuminga 即使身處「輔助角色」,使用率卻高達 27.4%,是全聯盟最高之一。(作為對比,Curry 上季的使用率為 29.8%,而 Butler 在勇士效力期間則是 20.6%。)

‧ And Kuminga’s time with the crucial threesome of Curry, Butler, and Draymond has yielded pure gold for the Warriors so far. That group has played more thanany Warriors four-man unit (72 minutes) and has a +27.3 net rating.

‧ 而 Kuminga 與 Curry、Butler、Draymond 這三人組合的上場時間,至今為止為勇士帶來了極佳的成果。這個四人組的出場時間(72 分鐘)是全隊所有四人組中最長的,淨勝分達 +27.3。

By the way, Kuminga is also on the second-, third-, and fifth-best four-man Warrior units so far this season. (One consequence of starting Kuminga is that Kerrcan match his minutes with Curry, which is always a good thing for any player. And that clears the way for a Butler unit when Curry and Kuminga are out.)

順帶一提,Kuminga 同時也是本季勇士第二、第三和第五佳四人組合的一員。(讓 Kuminga 進入先發的一個好處,是 Kerr 能將他的上場時間與 Curry 對齊——這對任何球員來說都不會是壞事。而這也讓 Butler 能帶領另一組陣容在 Curry 和 Kuminga 休息時登場。)

And, as Kuminga and Kerr have noted, when Curry, Butler, and Draymond get some nights off (hasn’t happened yet, but it’s coming), Kuminga and the other youngplayers will have even larger roles.

此外,正如 Kuminga 和 Kerr 所說,當 Curry、Butler、Draymond 偶爾輪休時(目前尚未發生,但遲早會),Kuminga 和其他年輕球員將會扮演更吃重的角色。

Will this last forever? Probably not. There have been wild ups and downs in this situation for four-plus years already, and there will surely be more to come.

這樣的狀況會永遠持續下去嗎?大概不會。過去四年多來,這段關係早已歷經不少起伏,未來肯定還會有波動。

Coincidentally, if this really is a permanent breakthrough for Kuminga, he willbecome even more interesting and valuable on the trade market in January and February. But if they keep winning, of course, the Warriors would have less incentive to want to trade him. We’ll see how far this goes.

巧合的是,如果這真是 Kuminga 的永久突破,他在一月與二月的交易市場上勢必會變得更具吸引力與價值。但若球隊持續贏球,勇士當然就更沒有理由交易他了。事情會如何發展,我們拭目以待。

One of the more interesting developments as a side note to this Kuminga situation is that Butler is specifically committed to supporting him and nudging him every day.

在 Kuminga 的這整個情況中,有個有趣的支線發展——Butler 幾乎每天都在主動支持並督促他。

“He’s happy; he’s joyful,” Butler said of Kuminga. “He knows that he’s pla
ying at a high level, he knows that everybody wants him to continue to do that.I’m just here to make sure he stays level-headed.”

「他很快樂、很有熱情,」Butler 談到 Kuminga 時說道,「他知道自己打得很好,也知道大家都希望他繼續保持。我只是確保他能維持冷靜與專注。」

Wait: Butler as the Warriors’ wise old head for the youngsters? I would not have predicted that at any time before this month, but it’s all true and all right in front of us.

等等——Butler 成了勇士年輕球員的「老大哥」?在這個月之前我絕對想不到這件事,但現在確確實實就在眼前上演。

Late Tuesday night, as Butler was on his way to the podium to speak to reporters, he made a point to stop by Kuminga’s locker and ask him about the colorful design on some of his extra shoes. Kuminga smiled, and they chatted for a few seconds — just Butler making sure he was checking in with a player he obviously sees as a key to this season.

週二晚間,在 Butler 前往講台接受媒體訪問的途中,他特地繞去 Kuminga 的置物櫃旁,問他那些色彩繽紛的備用球鞋設計代表什麼。Kuminga 微笑回應,兩人閒聊了幾句——這只是 Butler 確認自己有關心到他眼中這位本季關鍵球員的一個舉動。

“There are so many people that are in his corner — I’m one of them,” Butler
said a few minutes later. “There’s so many other individuals in this organization, on this team, this coaching staff as well that want him to be great.

“And it’s OK to make mistakes. You’ve just gotta listen. Sometimes it may not always come off the way that you want it to. But I tell him, I promise, it’s in good faith. Like, nobody’s just yelling at you to yell at you.”

「有很多人都在他身邊支持他——我就是其中之一,」Butler 幾分鐘後說道,「球團裡有很多人、隊上也有很多人、教練團也是,大家都希望他變得更強。

「犯錯沒關係,只要願意聽。有時候表達方式不一定是你想要的那樣,但我告訴他,我保證那都是出於善意。沒有人會無緣無故對你大吼。」

The main theme from Kuminga is that he’s not going to be overly sensitive about his minutes, or even about starting. If Kerr at some point decides to cut downhis minutes or take him out of the starting lineup, Kuminga said he will be fine if he is told straight up and if there are good reasons for it.

Kuminga 的主要態度是,他不會太在意上場時間,甚至不會執著於是否先發。若某個時刻 Kerr 決定減少他的上場時間或把他從先發名單拿掉,Kuminga 表示只要有明確理由、而且教練坦白說明,他都能接受。

“I’m not sitting here thinking that I’m going to keep those minutes,” Kuming
a said. “I’ve gotta go out there and earn those minutes.

“That’s another thing I told Steve: If it’s not my night, tell me. I won’t g
et mad. I’ll be a good teammate, as I’ve always been. I’ll support. I’ll do
stuff that will help us win.”

「我不會覺得那些上場時間是理所當然的,」Kuminga 說道,「我得靠表現去爭取。」

「我也跟 Steve 說過,如果那天不是我的比賽,直接告訴我就好。我不會生氣。我會當個好隊友,就像一直以來那樣。我會支持大家,做對球隊有幫助的事。」

It’s a practical relationship, not quite kumbaya forever. But it’s honest andforged by past disconnection, which is better than current disconnection and false pretenses.

這是一段務實的關係,不是那種永遠和樂融融的類型。但它建立在誠實的基礎上,也是在過去疏離之後重建而成的,比起現在還在假裝親密的關係要健康得多。

For instance, Kerr has mentioned repeatedly that he’d love for Kuminga to pattern his game after that of Shawn Marion, a super-athletic defense-and-reboundingwing and three-time All-Star from the early 2000s.

舉例來說,Kerr 曾多次提到,他希望 Kuminga 能以 Shawn Marion 為榜樣——那位在 2000 年代初期以防守與籃板著稱、並三度入選全明星的超級運動型前鋒。

Your thoughts on the Marion comp, JK?

對於被拿來和 Marion 比較這件事,你怎麼看,JK?

“I’m just here to win and play basketball,” Kuminga said. “I’m not going to
go out there and play like somebody else. I’m just here to win and do what I’ve gotta do to help us win.”

「我只是想贏球、打球,」Kuminga 說道,「我不會去模仿別人。我只是想贏,做該做的事幫助球隊贏。」

That’s about as matter-of-fact as it gets. And after our conversation, I felt exactly what Kuminga said he’s feeling about his relationship with his coach: It might not always be laughs and hugs, but it’s always better to say the thingsyou feel so that nobody’s guessing and nobody’s making the wrong assumptions.

這句話再直接不過了。而在我們的對話之後,我也能明白 Kuminga 對他與教練關係的感受——或許不總是歡笑擁抱,但至少雙方都能開誠布公,讓彼此不用再猜測或誤會。

It’s healthier. It won’t always be perfect. It can get difficult. But when it’s working — as it is for Kuminga, Kerr, and the Warriors right now — you absolutely understand that it’s the only way worth trying.

這樣比較健康,不會永遠完美,也可能會有難關。但當一切順利運作時——就像現在 Kuminga、Kerr 和勇士之間的狀態——你會明白,這才是最值得堅持的方式。

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“ I just wanted him to push me more, harder. “

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louis82828 10/30 17:28贏球治百病 去年開季也是

greedy1010 10/30 17:28贏球治百病

justice2008 10/30 17:29關鍵就是態度改變啊 以前這樣打 老闆會捨不得繳稅嗎

f77928 10/30 17:32現在這情況近乎完美 無論自用還是交易都兩相宜

chenliu0716 10/30 17:33吉巴的「錢到位」精神傳承

f77928 10/30 17:34當初罵苦命卡全隊的應該都洗心革面喊真香了

zego41 10/30 17:34公事公辦,你要打出身價,勇士也好操作交易

alex0203cool10/30 17:35一月見真章

LukaDoncic7710/30 17:35Kerr看來是一個好教練,苦命照著他這樣打真的起飛

ghostxx 10/30 17:35防守更積極,少了莫名其妙的中投真的有差

wlcscs 10/30 17:36能慢慢長成勇士AG 那還不飛天

Tonyx599026 10/30 17:36[花邊] Marc Spears:Kuminga已決心幫助勇士衝冠

ClownT 10/30 17:40我和你啊 存在一種危險關係

lee85313xd 10/30 17:40不太可能交易了 現在市場上以他這種身手的側翼很少

lee85313xd 10/30 17:40了 現在算是超值合約

IloveZ 10/30 17:41優秀的3D側翼,每個隊伍都愛。

samsam80821 10/30 17:42其實這就是之前希望苦命打的定位 本來以為他球商沒

samsam80821 10/30 17:42救了 沒想到開竅了

a22122212 10/30 17:43球商突然成長了

jeff1013 10/30 17:43我勇王朝來了

kiddgogogo 10/30 17:44早一兩年學著這樣打,進化到現在就剛好無縫接班了

asdfzx 10/30 17:44太旱 ,舒服 有者麼著急嘛

swingingbear10/30 17:44不就終於有穩定時間了嗎

johnny1229 10/30 17:45我苦黑我道歉,這季他真的大進化

damon0913 10/30 17:45勇士根本沒想到苦命會開竅,不然約的長度就不會這

damon0913 10/30 17:45麼短了,現在這個金額打這樣賺爛了吧

turnpoint 10/30 17:46太早,每次開季或是剛簽約都會聽到很多蜜月期的新

turnpoint 10/30 17:46聞,之後通常會是老問題重演,不只勇士跟苦命

mrfootball 10/30 17:46沒想到會開竅+1,現在是雙贏的局面

samsam80821 10/30 17:46去年上半年勇士都給他時間啊 他也有成功消化球權

samsam80821 10/30 17:46戰積也好 但打法就是完全硬打 然後後面受傷就沒時

samsam80821 10/30 17:46間配合了 今年目前的打法是真的很驚艷 投切傳拿捏

samsam80821 10/30 17:46的都很好 不勉強有效率

shizukun010310/30 17:48這幾場看起來確實是打的聰明很多

Aoener 10/30 17:49去年上半年已經有這種雛形了啦,又不是突然出現的

ymsc30102 10/30 17:50Kerr:讓他爽一下全力打賣相才會好

ohya111326 10/30 17:50最終還是要交易阿

lolwtfnow 10/30 17:50今年確實以往會衝進去撞牆自殺的回合都很冷靜處理

lolwtfnow 10/30 17:50不過還是大旱 幾個月後再來看

linkismet 10/30 17:51吉巴黑八帶Bam跟一群落選秀打贏塞爾提克公鹿,油頭

linkismet 10/30 17:51還摳不給和字母哥JT傑倫布朗相當的頂薪,那就是油頭

samsam80821 10/30 17:51以前最常發生的事的衝進去 沒機會在奇怪的地方停球

linkismet 10/30 17:51欠罵,勇士制服組為了戰績都已經丟了佛祖,普爾圍巾,

linkismet 10/30 17:51苦命有比上面這些人資歷硬?Kerr和紅色光頭都共事過

linkismet 10/30 17:51,咖喱退了他也就退了,待退有無敵星星只剩下幫咖喱

linkismet 10/30 17:51再來一個總冠超越喇叭科比的執念,苦命當然就是認份

linkismet 10/30 17:52打球,看要當奪冠拼圖或是換來好東西對他也好

ccr0857 10/30 17:52金州流川楓

c27932589 10/30 17:52太長了 有懶人包嗎

ccccccccccc 10/30 17:54懶人包放在最後面的心得

flybow 10/30 17:54士官長真的超值 還幫忙帶人

zyic 10/30 17:54上賽季這麼打早就大家搶了

gn02587367 10/30 17:54懶人包就是贏球治百病

ccccccccccc 10/30 17:55上季無法兼容三老 這季突然可以 原因不明

gn0028526 10/30 17:55今年打得就像個小吉巴 有個模板在隊上給你照抄

chenliu0716 10/30 17:57吉巴:再來學打牌+開咖啡店

samsam80821 10/30 17:57其實上季主要是沒時間讓他跟JB配 他受傷後JB來 然

samsam80821 10/30 17:57後傷癒就要季後賽了 沒時間配合

hank7218 10/30 17:57才5場zzz

hiro1221 10/30 17:57今年真的很積極搶板跟防守

jeff1013 10/30 17:57原來是成為小吉巴了!

hiro1221 10/30 17:58而且也不執著一定要自己得分了

swallow753 10/30 17:58贏球治百病

samsam80821 10/30 17:58而且籃板意識也提高很多

tyrone0923 10/30 17:58反正現在這樣打對苦命沒壞處,至少證明給他時間他

tyrone0923 10/30 17:58能打,而且不一定要吃球權

c27932589 10/30 18:00

chinhan1216 10/30 18:01贏球治百病

q888atPt 10/30 18:02我記得最後一兩周不是有新聞 三老都挺他

yeustream 10/30 18:03似乎一切突然都變好了

vince4687 10/30 18:04錢到位都好說

wurenben 10/30 18:05苦命開季前到底嗑了什麼?我猜很多隊也很好奇想嚐

conqueror50710/30 18:05相愛相殺

chihlanren 10/30 18:07苦命採訪有說 他在每次跟吉巴練球後都在努力吸收他

chihlanren 10/30 18:07的教學

IIxIIIxV 10/30 18:10金州阿北隊還是要年輕人幫忙才能走得長久。不只苦命

IIxIIIxV 10/30 18:10,木笛和podz也要盡可能維持好狀態

onplaya 10/30 18:12贏球治百病

samsam80821 10/30 18:13我相信JB的例子應該讓他開竅很多 先不管球商 以他

samsam80821 10/30 18:13條件 籃板對他來說更多就是意識問題 突然多了兩三

samsam80821 10/30 18:13

samsam80821 10/30 18:13畢竟JB本人就是一個最佳例子 先幹小事也可以幹成球

samsam80821 10/30 18:13

sttyuio5083 10/30 18:14季後賽就知道了 例行賽不準啦

knwuw 10/30 18:15我倒覺得有另一個可能,是他得到保證的上場時間跟

knwuw 10/30 18:15球權後,反而態度會更積極。我記得之前有文章說火

knwuw 10/30 18:15箭的綠還史密斯也是這樣,agg之前在馬刺也有類似的

PhilipsOreo 10/30 18:15可以接棒了

knwuw 10/30 18:15情況

xbit 10/30 18:15士官長現在還兼輔導長,開導後苦命成長了

Cishang 10/30 18:16他去年那樣打不就是欠冰而已,結果只證明他不是沒球

Cishang 10/30 18:17商只是上季只想刷

opse1020 10/30 18:17想通了

kaede0711 10/30 18:18美金治百病

a22122212 10/30 18:19就是心結解開終於認真打球了

tailsean 10/30 18:20借轉感謝!

tailsean:轉錄至看板 G-S-WARRIORS

10/30 18:20

iuiuisme 10/30 18:20贏球治百病

ghchen1978 10/30 18:22假嘎粉:我是誰?我在哪?

alex8725 10/30 18:23差很多啦 他休賽期後傳球意識提升非常多

kaede0711 10/30 18:23其實上季的部分我認為跟他傷太久加上時間不夠有關

kaede0711 10/30 18:23係 這部分其實Kerr暑假時有說明過 很多人以為Kerr

kaede0711 10/30 18:23愛講幹話 但很多他的完整訪談看完其實都有很清晰的

kaede0711 10/30 18:23脈絡和動機

cysticercus 10/30 18:25心態問題吧 大約到手不用總想著刷數據了

bluebear44 10/30 18:25雷霆瑟瑟發抖

kaede0711 10/30 18:25他如果說他會認真研究怎麼讓JK融入他就真的會去做

kaede0711 10/30 18:25 當然這中間也包含很多JK自己心境轉變的部分但很多

kaede0711 10/30 18:25人長期對Kerr有偏見 所以暑假時他說什麼都覺得Ker

kaede0711 10/30 18:25r又在講屁話 事實上你能做到他的要求 Kerr就真的會

kaede0711 10/30 18:25用你

fireforce 10/30 18:26問94贏球治百病

goury 10/30 18:27簽約前就不斷在說,苦命方就是錢或地位至少要爭取一

goury 10/30 18:27項,很多手段目的也就是想多談點錢,現在苦命如果還

goury 10/30 18:27是不好好配合展現自己,就是跟自己未來薪水過不去,

goury 10/30 18:27JK不是DA,他態度一直沒問題所以才會看到上季最後即

goury 10/30 18:27便被冰到死,但一輪到他上場時還是能拿出成績

zyic 10/30 18:27kerr的要求就是基本的團隊籃球要求啊

zyic 10/30 18:28卡位搶籃板多傳球,要眼中有咖哩啊

Snowman 10/30 18:28吉巴太超值 能打能帶人還帶心 不虧是老A

coyoteY 10/30 18:28吉巴應該是扮演帶他改變的最重要角色

kaede0711 10/30 18:29魯尼離隊時有講過他覺得自己被棄用很受傷 但也為K

kaede0711 10/30 18:29err護航認為Kerr用人沒有好惡 他會憑著他對贏球的

kaede0711 10/30 18:30預期跟想像去用人

bigstreet 10/30 18:30所以苦命是福田型的選手,要人誇才會強

Snowman 10/30 18:30吉巴以前也是皇叔下面的子龍 沒了皇叔也是一飛沖天

Snowman 10/30 18:30當老大了

peterw 10/30 18:30贏球治百病

goury 10/30 18:31Kerr的部分也講到爛,他只是人也有他的不足之處,上

goury 10/30 18:31季可能沒辦法臨時讓苦命融入當時正好的團隊才棄用,

goury 10/30 18:31但只要有機會,他一定是會想辦法找到方法來用苦命。

goury 10/30 18:31那些在說Kerr這季一定冰死苦命的,就是以為Kerr是有

goury 10/30 18:31偏見才惡意冰苦命,但其實只是每個人擅長不同

vulpuff 10/30 18:32開季幾場看來是真的進化很多啊

kaede0711 10/30 18:33Green的訪談有提到JK是Kerr沒有帶過的類型 所以他

kaede0711 10/30 18:33也在學習怎麼帶他 就這點來說Butler的加入確實起到

kaede0711 10/30 18:33很強的身教效果

goury 10/30 18:33苦命要錢,需要展現自己價值;Kerr要面對漫長球季,

goury 10/30 18:33需找到苦命使用說明書老人撐不了整季,兩邊一拍即合

lakb24 10/30 18:36吉巴或咖哩倒其中一個的時候,苦命的價值才會最大

lakb24 10/30 18:36體現

gigiii1134 10/30 18:37吉巴可以教他怎樣專業的吹密

KingChang71110/30 18:37繼續保持下去就有機會變成臺柱了

SlamKai 10/30 18:39吉巴一部分薪水是導師費

rayarising 10/30 18:41吉巴怎麼打學他就對了

bigstreet 10/30 18:42上季不用的原因很簡單,戰績就快被淘汰了,哪來的餘

bigstreet 10/30 18:42裕給苦命找手感,只是季後賽DNP就很奇葩了,好歹垃

bigstreet 10/30 18:42圾時間能給他上啊

xru03 10/30 18:43吉巴:未來是你的!

frank836 10/30 18:44吉巴對年輕人真的是很用心

skygray2 10/30 18:45他早點這樣打,什麼問題都沒有

alex0973 10/30 18:46持續整個賽季再說

forfiet 10/30 18:46金吉巴讓苦命開竅轉變 太神了 以後我要粉吉巴

laputaca 10/30 18:48看好!!

eellee 10/30 18:48笑死怎麼覺得有人閱讀障礙看了這麼多還是看不懂

iwinlottery 10/30 18:49商品展示

ElderShock 10/30 18:49贏球治百病

birdinthesea10/30 18:49吉巴剛好給他一個不以投射見長的球員怎麼打好球的典

birdinthesea10/30 18:49

megumin5566 10/30 18:50商品跟銷售員

iwinlottery 10/30 18:50馬後炮一下去年季後賽這樣打多好

minicat 10/30 18:51禁忌的關係

sdg235 10/30 18:51苦命開竅了啊,槓不贏球隊的

kkl522608 10/30 18:52決策品質進步很多欸

njunju 10/30 18:52被PUA成功

cysticercus 10/30 18:53吉巴或咖哩傷兵的時候才是真的考驗

zyic 10/30 18:53又不是第一年教他

forever920fv10/30 18:54跟嘴綠訓練營時說的一樣 只要贏球 一切就會沒問題

MA40433 10/30 18:56贏球治百病,對心病有特效

rockheart 10/30 18:56這回答太苦了吧 成熟苦命

pikachuu 10/30 18:58屁話,去年他原本不也是勇士前幾個最佳陣容的球員

pikachuu 10/30 18:58,缺哪補哪,還不是該冰就冰,被一堆雲仔那邊黑態

pikachuu 10/30 18:58度,垃圾勇不配啦。

rockheart 10/30 19:00找咖哩不是一個很難的決定吧…吉巴來的第一件事

rockheart 10/30 19:01不就找咖哩?可以拿助攻,也可以接到空手切傳球

CircusWorld 10/30 19:03苦命這記目前打法和前幾年真的差很多 前幾年看他打

Wall62 10/30 19:03贏球治百病

whhw 10/30 19:03出貨文

CircusWorld 10/30 19:03各種腦衝硬撞 該傳球的時機就真的沒傳 那時候真心覺

CircusWorld 10/30 19:04得他再這樣打下去 對他自己也沒好處 但今年這幾場打

CircusWorld 10/30 19:04下來 有像當初可愛和吉巴那時候剛崛起來的影子了

SergioRod 10/30 19:08太早 不過目前感覺球商進步很多

zyic 10/30 19:10缺哪補哪,最好有啦,卡位籃板傳球

zyic 10/30 19:10之前沒有一個可以穩定持續堅持做

loveless01 10/30 19:14贏球治百病

mjkblbjboth 10/30 19:14苦黑 見風轉舵季後又會出來臭

wwj3924 10/30 19:16軍中出缺 士官長暫代輔導長

PTTerzy 10/30 19:21不過苦命也是去年才開始大量出場

ahinetn123 10/30 19:22上一季鐵頭刷數據 反而更爛

ninaman 10/30 19:26這樣看起來,還好當時拿到的吉巴,不是那個A方案的

hunt5566 10/30 19:27贏球一切都好 皇城一片和諧

sylviehsiang10/30 19:30會傳球的流川楓有誰會讓他坐板凳

pika2050530 10/30 19:39Kerr:壓價成功嘿嘿

freshbox7 10/30 19:42再觀察一陣子,勇士上季也是只有開季戰績不錯

freshbox7 10/30 19:42不過能把握這兩年的話,下個約才能有大約。

mightshowgun10/30 19:43不知道為何綠師父很看好苦命

Ke1even 10/30 19:43圍巾2.0

nkjbond 10/30 19:44明年1月就去國王或太陽了吧

alex8725 10/30 19:46傳球很難學啦 很多時候不是不想傳 是真的看不到

alex8725 10/30 19:47傳球好學的話控衛就不會一直都很貴了

Weasley40 10/30 19:47豹紋廚

morgan77123 10/30 19:48其實齒輪假如磨合成功 根本不用考慮交易 新人進來

morgan77123 10/30 19:48還要磨合 苦命已經足夠用了

jayjen 10/30 19:48還在贏球沒問題XD

kingianlin 10/30 19:49主要還是苦寶薪水不夠高啦22M能換誰

ponkd 10/30 19:50看來之前冰他是為了歷價

kingianlin 10/30 19:50打得爛別人要價太高換不了 打得好換了沒升級

kingianlin 10/30 19:51只能說很尷尬 喊交易但也得有適合勇士的標的

asam0227 10/30 19:52贏球的時候什麼鳥事都會變好事

steven20040910/30 19:54懶人包:贏球治百病

eliczone 10/30 19:56Kerr這方面很老派 年輕人你什麼都還沒有 至少態度

eliczone 10/30 19:56要出來 跑要比別人快 籃板抓的比別人積極 說他針對

eliczone 10/30 19:56苦命就是笑話 他不管是哪個新人都是這樣

CornyDragon 10/30 20:00早晚要交易的 所以開始注意賣相了

LuxJason 10/30 20:02還在講壓價的邏輯真的很好笑,壓價一個球員薪水比

LuxJason 10/30 20:03拿冠軍重要?

cloudyst 10/30 20:03調教成功

peanutman 10/30 20:05真的沒想到暑假過後竟然變好了XD

b54102 10/30 20:05壓價+1

tomoti 10/30 20:06照苦命現在醬打,勇士根本不會放人吧,很難換到更好的

Hitagi 10/30 20:07好好打球才有機會拚大約

batis 10/30 20:07吉巴心輔官太香了

flyinmagic 10/30 20:09被罵過以後突然變成熟了!?

answermangtr10/30 20:09真的突然開竅 好扯

leon82guy 10/30 20:13其實如果現在有人來詢價應該可以賣說

MoWilliams 10/30 20:14不就贏球治百病

ccccccccccc 10/30 20:18壓什麼價 去年能打這樣 季後賽也不會操到咖哩受傷

ccccccccccc 10/30 20:18==

ccccccccccc 10/30 20:19Kerr寧願輸球也要幫老闆省錢 真假?

soarman 10/30 20:20自殺切和轉身中投打鐵就是去年的苦命,連為什麼被

soarman 10/30 20:20冰都不知道,是只看數據看不懂勇士體系雲球迷嗎?

s08k521 10/30 20:25才4勝1敗就在吹了

Xing97302 10/30 20:25賣像越來越好了

windsp0419 10/30 20:31商品展示加好運贏球

sawalee0811 10/30 20:35贏球治百病

vertebrae 10/30 20:36太早

bloodruru 10/30 20:40靠 居然連高球商都出現惹 XDD

yao03911 10/30 20:40這樣打下去根本沒賣的理由吧,兩年後剛好接球隊一

yao03911 10/30 20:40

p5319 10/30 20:43苦命如果以這種表現,球隊應該肯定留著自用吧

dai26 10/30 20:46贏球治百病,通篇廢言

lia910229 10/30 20:51支持勇士頂薪續約

y5721389 10/30 20:51商品展示啦 半年後再回來看這篇

walter5663 10/30 20:52以前為什麼不這樣打

s114752 10/30 20:52今年真的開竅了

mepass 10/30 20:53才23歲 現在開竅不遲

MDAISUKE18 10/30 20:54跟贏球治百病哪有關係,倒不如猜苦命被施了什麼術

MDAISUKE18 10/30 20:54突然會這樣打,去年那個樣子不就明顯急了

imagineQQ 10/30 20:54苦命轉大人?!

megumirei 10/30 20:54嗯嗯 毛好多啊 苦命有夠煩

karlwu 10/30 20:55這種表現下去一年半後要端三千五起跳了

z789252 10/30 20:55繼續保持下去老人退休就可以接班了,吉巴很有經驗

z789252 10/30 20:55,看看以前玫瑰跟吉巴就知道了

joy9601 10/30 21:00今年的苦命完全不是同一個人 幾乎不會看到他犯蠢

drcula 10/30 21:01吉巴就教他怎麼樣好拿到頂薪啊,學到吉巴7成,頂薪穩

karlwu 10/30 21:03還在刷賣相的,看一下比賽吧......

Qaaaa 10/30 21:06但這不是鄉民要的庫命 鄉民要的就是單幹一哥

alain 10/30 21:18勇士去年意外撿到吉巴真的是賺到...

kumafez 10/30 21:20哪算意外?花6000萬就是不是意外了

kumafez 10/30 21:21補吉巴算是方案 只是很後面的方案而已

yyes5210 10/30 21:24如果去年勇士搶PG,那畫面笑死

loserloser 10/30 21:25戰績落賽 變陣後再來看這篇

jyekid 10/30 21:27問題在輸球的時候

malain 10/30 21:41現在就不是在講苦命變多強,還是勇士很強很厲害,

malain 10/30 21:41是在講怎麼完全換了個人在打而已,根本是不同球員

malain 10/30 21:41的打球內容了

shao47147 10/30 21:49勇士如果當初A計劃換PG成功,不知道會如何?

zhong871201 10/30 21:54怎麼感覺勇士的時間線 從誤打誤撞拿到吉巴開始變很

zhong871201 10/30 21:54不一樣 盤活一堆東西

AirForce00 10/30 21:56吉巴士官長兼輔導長,專長就是帶菜兵啊

gn01110728 10/30 21:56本來放棄的雙時間線好像真的因為吉巴復活了XD

AirForce00 10/30 21:57給吉巴帶完,連接班人都不用煩惱了

BabooHuang 10/30 21:59長大了

chiz2 10/30 21:59不用吹那麼快啦

hoenatr2013 10/30 21:59撿pg勇士可以直接推平了 咖哩可以考慮退休了

rtfgyrtfgy 10/30 22:00太長

zyic 10/30 22:04pg有換到,四爺也不會走啊

gg0079 10/30 22:05現在猜是士官長直接給他點醒了 不然哪可以一下開竅

veter 10/30 22:06維持這種表現拿3500沒人覺得不ok啊

kiddgogogo 10/30 22:07補Butler根本沒人會想到這麼契合,有夠扯

veter 10/30 22:07之前那表現誰會開3500給他啊= =

ghostxx 10/30 22:10吉巴一開始不想去勇士就是了,不過誠意給滿難以拒絕

rockheart 10/30 22:11看嘴綠的說法,四爺很想換環境耶

rockheart 10/30 22:12除非勇士誠意($)給滿,但不太可能

sunnyyoung 10/30 22:14最佳助教JB

BananaCake 10/30 22:15現在是要結婚了嗎

Anglee2046 10/30 22:15吉巴以前也是苦工出來的

dreackes 10/30 22:16A方案換了PG來就準備CURRY退休巡迴賽了

justptt978 10/30 22:27錢到位 戰力到位

rockheart 10/30 22:31now news寫浪子回頭…我笑了 薰一支一支一支咧點

basarasaga 10/30 22:49先不要這麼舒服 等過完 公鹿 76人 雷霆 馬刺 再說

k798976869 10/30 22:50準備要賣了 看有沒有盤子要賭被噱到

rockers 10/30 22:51贏球治百病

k798976869 10/30 22:51其他隊千萬要小心啊

smartwe 10/30 23:24我也看錯了,沒想到他會改變!

j7410620 10/30 23:31JB: 咖啡店加盟金1000W

leo615210 10/30 23:38我覺得有點太早,多打幾場再說

lovetina 10/31 00:20勇士交易來吉巴 是為了要和太陽換KD啊 只是KD不來ww

lovetina 10/31 00:22太早+1 再觀察幾場 去年苦命原也是漸入佳境 然後...

jyekid 10/31 00:46太早 等到連敗 作文家們又有其他故事了

WarIII 10/31 01:01吉巴全能到場下還能帶兵 真是舒服

Cuchulainn 10/31 01:43不急 球季還很長

hiro1221 10/31 01:55其實看打法跟數據就知道跟去年完全不一樣

hiro1221 10/31 01:56吉巴真的是沒想到可以完全融入勇士又帶小將

eno03 10/31 02:10才幾場就在吹了

ly102530 10/31 02:22去年嘴他也沒毛病吧 就真的很腦衝 今年突然開竅了

ly102530 10/31 02:22這種表現真的值得肯定 希望未來繼續保持

goury 10/31 04:12明明去年吉巴來我和不少人都一直在說勇士賺到超巨..

goury 10/31 04:12當時沒有想到吉巴有這些功用的,是完全沒看熱火嗎?

coyoteY 10/31 06:50吉巴到灰狼/費城/熱火都是能提高球隊戰績

attdave 10/31 07:02吉巴變成勇士小瘦了

heveninferno10/31 07:26贏球治百病

aapcao 10/31 07:52吉巴導師開啟了球商增長

marx0126 10/31 07:52現在就是對自己未來身價有幫助對球隊也好操作交易

marx0126 10/31 07:52當然皆大歡喜

cb600fhornet10/31 08:04這篇文有一種立旗的感覺…似乎為了交易在鋪路了

ahsoo 10/31 08:39其實苦命的天賦是肯定有的 一直喊球商的人怎不檢討

ahsoo 10/31 08:39勇士是怎麼用他的

jkduke 10/31 08:55$$$$$到位 不用急著刷數據 當毒瘤

jkduke 10/31 08:56有看球的知道 去年前年 苦命就很獨 一直想刷

jkduke 10/31 08:57今年續約後 打球合理多了 該傳就傳

allen0981 10/31 09:37連敗期間在回來看

h75311418 10/31 09:57不管他想不想留下現在都是要好好展現賣相的時候這是

h75311418 10/31 09:57雙贏

h75311418 10/31 09:58他跟球隊弄不合其他球隊也怕是休息室氣氛仔

wainkid 10/31 11:37確實 苦命真的脫胎換骨 至少科學家肯用、敢用

wainkid 10/31 11:38就看勇士能走多遠 等著咖哩大爆射整季!!

jzbobby 10/31 13:23科學家:喂小鄧 一月的交易對象準備好了吧?

ming0408 10/31 16:40贏球治百病

sorrry30000 11/01 10:27突然這麼好用