[外絮] ESPN排近年15大交易 - 2
本篇是7-10
有翻譯錯誤勞煩告知 謝謝
10. Kevin Garnett to Boston in 2007
狼王成為綠血人 - 2007
Boston receives: Kevin Garnett
Minnesota receives: Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair and two 2009 first-round picks (including Minnesota's own pick returning to the franchise)
超賽拿到狼王 Garnett
灰狼拿到Gomes Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair
還有2個2009首輪(其中一個為灰狼自己的首輪被歸還)
After spending the first 12 years of his NBA career with the Minnesota Timberwolves, Garnett, who had a no-trade clause, wound up going to Boston.
在灰狼度過12年生涯,有完整不可交易條款的狼王成為綠血人。
On the player side, Jefferson, who averaged 16 points and 11 rebounds in his age-22 season, came back to Minnesota in return, and he spent the next few years paired inside next to future star Kevin Love. And on the pick side, Minnesota -- no stranger to the lottery -- received its own pick in 2009, which projected to be a valuable one.
這次交易報酬中的球員方面,場均16分 11板 22歲的Al Jefferson 作為主菜去了灰狼。接下來的幾年,他會與下一代狼王Love並肩作戰。
That proved to be the case, as the Timberwolves landed the sixth overall selection. But Minnesota passed on Stephen Curry, who was taken No. 7 -- twice, first with the No. 5 pick, where the team selected Ricky Rubio, and then at No. 6, when the Wolves took Syracuse guard Jonny Flynn, who played a total of 163 NBA games in his career.
選秀簽方面,他們本來有機會…不, 是兩次機會得到了Curry
但他們在5th選了金童Rubio 並隨即在6th拿走了Jonny Flynn ,而後者僅在NBA出賽163場
最後Curry在第七順位去了勇士
補充 :
除了Al Jefferson外 同年紀的Ryan Gomes也算合格的先發 (2輪 但第二年就打出成績)
Gerald Green是養了2年的首輪18順位 ,雖然大都為替補一直奮戰到2019才離開NBA 大家比較熟悉的稱呼應該是九指灌籃王
Theo Ratliff當時只能算是薪資包
再加上Telfair
這包其實是 一個年輕準明星(Al )
跟3個站上輪替的年輕小將跟2個首輪 ,一個還保障樂透(因為是灰狼自己的)
很多人說這隻樂透變成Flynn其實不太公平啦,畢竟5-6是連著選的
至於另一支籤則變成老將Wayne Ellington
結果論來說,灰狼持平 而BOS拿到重要的一冠 畢竟沒有這一冠,LBJ就會在前年摘下超前的一冠而不是僅追平。
Ref: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NBA_draft
9. Shaquille O'Neal to Miami in 2004
俠客去熱火 - 2004
Miami receives: Shaquille O'Neal
Lakers receive: Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, Brian Grant, a 2006 first-round pick and a 2007 second-round pick
熱火拿到俠客
湖人拿到Odom , Caron Butler , Brain Grant 還有一個首輪一個次輪
O'Neal's relationship with Kobe Bryant had run its course, so the Lakers traded the future Hall of Fame center to Miami in one of the biggest trades in league history.
俠客與老大的關係緊張,所以湖人將大歐交易去邁阿密 - 一位名人堂球員。這是史上最大的交易之一。
But while Butler was eventually sent to Washington in an ill-fated deal for 2001 No. 1 overall pick Kwame Brown, Odom went on to become one of the pillars of the next great Lakers dynasty, alongside Bryant and Pau Gasol, reaching three NBA Finals and winning a pair of championships.
Bulter被交易到巫師,湖人得到跨米 , 但Odom成為湖人2連霸的重要成員
補充:
Caron Butler在高中就被預測是狀元,但因為傷病問題一直到第十順位才被熱火選走。第一年就以實力成為先發小前鋒並將Odom從小前擠到PF
可惜第二年傷病又找上他。導致數據全面退化
而首輪拿到26順位的Jordan Farmar
次輪則被交易去小牛,而小牛得到了Renaldas Seibutis的簽約權。
值得一提的是,Renaldas Seibutis雖然因為夏聯表現不佳一直沒有能上NBA。但他的簽約權一直到2018還被當作交易籌碼。
熱火出了堪用的先發中鋒 2個打出成績的潛力前鋒(Odom是FA簽下的)還有一個首輪 一個次輪
其他交易傳聞也滿精彩的,像是小牛傳出願意德佬單換 ,然後熱火奪冠的那年也是由歐肥擊敗了小牛
但實際上老闆有出來澄清他們並沒有拿德佬換歐肥的想法
這筆交易算雙贏 ,熱火拿到冠軍,而湖人得到未來(而且兌現了)
8. Russell Westbrook to Houston in 2019
Houston receives: Russell Westbrook
Oklahoma City receives: Chris Paul, a 2021 first-round pick, a 2024 first-round pick (top-four protected), a 2026 first-round pick (top-four protected) and two pick swaps
龜龜去火箭 - 2019
火箭得到龜龜
雷霆得到CP3 3首輪 2互換
註 : 我查到的資料是 24-26兩個首輪 還有 21年跟25年互換權
24/26兩個首輪沒有保護 但21互換有前4保護 , 25互換有前10保護
While Westbrook and Paul were already surefire Hall of Famers, when this deal was consummated in 2019 Paul was coming off an injury-plagued season in Houston and still had more than $100 million owed to him. That was why it took a boatload of picks and swaps from Houston for OKC to agree to the deal.
雖然CP3跟龜龜都是名人堂球員,但CP3因為傷病問題還有破億的合約,讓火箭為了擺脫他交出了大量的選秀簽
But Paul played brilliantly in Oklahoma City, leading the Thunder to a surprise No. 5 seed in 2020 before being traded a year later. The Thunder played this perfectly, amassing a war chest of picks that they are only just now beginning to use, netting guard Josh Giddey and center Chet Holmgren in the past two drafts.
但CP3到了雷霆之後表現完美,帶領小將成長茁壯,並在一年後交易到太陽為雷霆持續累積資源。
不過這筆交易對雷霆來說還沒開始兌現 (誰知道火箭可以在20-21坦的這麼徹底)
總的來說,火箭血虧 雷霆大賺小賺還要看後續
7. Kyrie Irving to Boston in 2017
Boston receives: Kyrie Irving
Cleveland receives: Jae Crowder, Isaiah Thomas, Ante Zizic, Brooklyn's 2018 first-round pick and Miami's 2020 second-round pick
青賽拿到KI
騎士拿到Jae Crowder ,矮湯 , 昌奇 跟一個首輪(來自籃網)跟一個次輪(來自熱火)
A year removed from helping the Cavaliers win their only NBA title, Irving famously wanted a bigger role and out of Cleveland -- and got his wish by being dealt to the Celtics.
在替騎士拿到隊史首冠後,KI因為想要更大的角色而選擇離開騎士,並通過交易去到青賽實現自己的理想。
The prize of this trade at the time was the unprotected Nets pick, which had a strong possibility of being a top-five selection. (Brooklyn went 20-62 in 2016-17.) But the Nets wound up being slightly better than expected (28-54), so it became the eighth pick, which Cleveland used to draft Collin Sexton.
And Thomas, dynamic in his two-plus seasons in Boston, was never the same player in Cleveland, or elsewhere, after a hip injury derailed his career.
當時他主要報酬是預計有前五順位的籃網簽 ,但後續籃網打的略好導致最終只有8th 並變成Sexton
而矮湯則因為屁股的傷勢,導致身手跟運鈔車一起開走了,受傷後他已經不是那個球員了。
補充: 此筆交易 騎士小虧(考慮到LBJ也離開就是巨虧) 青賽小虧 勇士大賺
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歐肥那筆居然只有第9…
第九的影響力明顯比第八高
Ryan Gomes和Gerald Green不同人,要不要分一下
KI和龜那麼高?
KI交易這麼高 為什麼阿
遊姆多一個輸球/轉隊藉口 RMBJ根本賺爆
10/9的影響都更多欸
KI和龜的交易後來只創造了一堆抓馬 對聯盟生態的衝
擊比KG 歐肥少很多吧
不同人阿@@ 請參考補充
青賽和騎士交易~結果是勇士大賺XD
看到龜和KI的排名就覺得是廢文
歐肥交易那時候熱度跟LBJ 甜瓜同年開吹差不多
KI離開毀了騎士 影響其實很大
誰知道再等幾年勇士也會因傷掉下去
比起來CP3 跟龜龜影響我反而覺得還好 就只是兩個big
name而已
騎士跟青賽交易勇士大賺 這讓我沉思了五分鐘
歷史的痕跡
Bos 2008沒奪冠不代表RMBJ會多一冠耶 那年連亞軍都
不是
歐肥交易案排太低了吧 直接影響三個冠軍耶!熱火一
個 湖人兩個
剩下的前五除了AD Gasol 還有誰?
鯊魚去熱火超轟動好嗎
龜龜那筆應該是近幾年最虧的交易XD 雷霆真的賺爛
AD PG 鬍子 蝶龍 甜瓜
不過我覺得會影響到冠軍歸屬的還是要排前面啦 包括
更後面可愛那個交易
他是指湖人冠軍數就超過塞爾提克吧
Shaq和KG交易都直接影響了後面的冠軍 明顯比78高吧
7/8沒奪冠 9/10交易後奪冠然後說影響力比較低 wtf?
7跟8那啥小,沒啥屁用的交易還能排上榜
15個沒有Pau Gasol
沒有Pau Gasol的交易這篇討論價值就低很多了 隨便影
響力都屌打這篇提到的
7 8 著眼的是失去方 都是讓一個冠軍熱門解體 不過總
體來說9 10的影響力還是比較高
Butler 拼錯
阿就還沒翻完一直在吵Gasol XD
對欸 交易前15沒有pau gasol會不會太扯XD
沒翻完也是可以點進去看文章阿
連GASOL都沒有喔... 這是個廢文了 太扯了
最後一個勇士大賺什麼鬼XD
一堆文盲連內文都沒看在那邊吵有誰沒誰
文章點進去1~15都看的到阿...
前六是AD PG Harden D.Williams Melo Love
歐尼爾交易兩邊都大勝耶,KI 的交易兩邊都慘綠
科迷到哪都要進攻
沒加嫂是真的滿扯
不是 原文點進去可以看全部的 是真的沒GASOL
7只是讓人對安吉冷血印象深刻而已吧.............
有人可以解釋一下Deron那筆是有什麼影響力呀?
蝶隆真的問號
光可愛去暴龍排那麼後面就沒參考價值了
衛少後續讓巫師進季後賽,CP3 讓太陽打入決賽,火
箭是好人
C.Butler菜鳥年 odom 還沒入隊啊
龜龜進榜的話 雜血人掏空籃網籤也要阿...........
前面鋪梗鋪這麼久 結果發現超沒公信力的排名XD
近20年的交易Gasol起碼也排前三,直接影響老大地位
沒有真的太扯
沒gasol不意外吧,因為是搶劫不是交易
某om笑死人 連內文都不看
我以為前10名至少要有拿到冠軍,KG歐肥這兩筆交易
影響比較大吧
我覺得TMAC應該排在russ前面
另外CP3進火箭比出火箭更重大...看後面1-5怎麼排
火箭換到Russ等於慢性自殺...CP3離開後也沒拿到冠軍
後面是1AD 2PG 3Harden 4D.Williams 5Melo 6Love
AD 帶來榮耀也卡死湖人,說第一也太過
為什麼近年首輪變那麼不值錢?大歐KG交易都不過1跟2
個首輪 近年卻動輒4至5個(加交換權)
KI跟勇士的關聯在哪裡
KG交易直接打到LBJ心態炸裂黑化,從此不顧恥力,步
入黑暗,應該排名第一
KI那個是指16後KD加入勇士吧,跟"交易案"本身沒關
龜龜去火箭也不錯啊要不是確診加受傷 確診前跟哈登
是史上場均得分最高雙人組超越老大歐肥
評選的明顯年紀較小或太主觀
竟然沒有Pau 跟Kwame的交易
湖人交易歐肥不是因為KB 而是因為巴斯不想付天價約
Bos沒奪冠就少一冠,LBJ在湖人那冠就會超前 但當季
安吉搶劫比利金感覺是第一
湖人應該會多一冠
AD轉隊一冠,KL轉隊一冠,只差12名,合理
勇士哪有差,有個KI也就多一勝的等級
評比的蠻鳥的,感覺都是些無關緊要的交易
Telfair的影響很大 他讓拓荒者賣掉了探花籤給爵士
爵士那年選了Deron 而下一順位選了CP3 連錯過兩個
BOS沒奪冠就是LAL得冠了不是嗎?
排名真的亂排
歐肥雙贏!
...這系列文第三篇我沒興趣了 本質上根本亂排
好窩
爛死了 KI那個哪裡重要 龜那個也不怎樣
BRICKY真的是每轉隊就毀了一支球隊
感覺不出順序排得有道理
就算灰狼選到Curry也是沒用好不好 笑死
雷霆太扯了 龜龜換CP3+3首輪
爆
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