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[情報] AMD宣布B450 X470將支援Zen 3

MorikonHase 發表於 2020/5/19 下午10:06:48
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MorikonHase
 (魔莉肯)時間推噓92 推:98 噓:6 →:38

原文:https://bit.ly/3bKRiP5

As we head into our upcoming “Zen 3” architecture, there are considerable
technical challenges that face a CPU socket as long-lived as AMD Socket AM4.
For example, we recently announced that we would not support “Zen 3” on AMD
400 Series motherboards due to serious constraints in SPI ROM capacities in
most of the AMD 400 Series motherboards. This is not the first time a
technical hurdle has come up with Socket AM4 given the longevity of this
socket, but it is the first time our enthusiasts have faced such a hurdle.

當提到我們的Zen 3技術，不免會對長命的ＡＭ４腳位產生一些技術上的問題。

我們最近宣布400系列主機板將不支援Zen 3的原因是因為400系列對於SPI ROM容量的
強力限制

以他的長壽程度來看，這並不是AM4腳位遇到的第一個技術障礙


但這卻是我們的粉絲第一次遇到了這種障礙


Over the past week, we closely reviewed your feedback on that news: we
watched every video, read every comment and saw every Tweet. We hear that
many of you hoped for a longer upgrade path. We hear your hope that AMD B450
and X470 chipsets would carry you into the “Zen 3” era.

在這一整個禮拜，我們仔細的閱讀了你們的回覆

我們看了每支影片

看了每個comment也讀了每一則tweet

我們聽到了多數人的需求 也就是延長更新




我們聽到了你們想要B450和X470

帶領你們進入Zen 3世代





Our experience has been that large-scale BIOS upgrades can be difficult and
confusing especially as processors come on and off the support lists. As the
community of Socket AM4 customers has grown over the past three years, our
intention was to take a path forward that provides the safest upgrade
experience for the largest number of users. However, we hear you loud and
clear when you tell us you would like to see B450 or X470 boards extended to
the next generation “Zen 3” products.

經驗告訴我們，大尺度的更新BIOS將會是一個很困難且複雜的挑戰
尤其是新的CPU在舊的板子上的支援

隨著AM4的使用者在這三年來的大幅上升

我們原本的計畫是讓這代退休 好讓最多人能享受最安全的升級

但我們聽見你的聲音告訴我們你想要讓B450和X470延長到下個世代

"""""""ZEN 3"""""""""





As the team weighed your feedback against the technical challenges we face,
we decided to change course. As a result, we will enable an upgrade path for
B450 and X470 customers that adds support for next-gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors
with the “Zen 3” architecture. This decision is very fresh, but here is a
first look at how the upgrade path is expected to work for customers of thesemotherboards.

大意就是我們知道了啦幹 會支援啦 這樣

1.We will develop and enable our motherboard partners with the code to support“Zen 3”-based processors in select beta BIOSes for AMD B450 and X470
motherboards.

2.These optional BIOS updates will disable support for many existing AMD Ryzen™ Desktop Processor models to make the necessary ROM space available.

3.The select beta BIOSes will enable a one-way upgrade path for AMD Ryzen
Processors with “Zen 3,” coming later this year. Flashing back to an older
BIOS version will not be supported.

4.To reduce the potential for confusion, our intent is to offer BIOS downloadonly to verified customers of 400 Series motherboards who have purchased a
new desktop processor with “Zen 3” inside. This will help us ensure that
customers have a bootable processor on-hand after the BIOS flash, minimizing
the risk a user could get caught in a no-boot situation.

5.Timing and availability of the BIOS updates will vary and may not immediatelycoincide with the availability of the first “Zen 3”-based processors.

6.This is the final pathway AMD can enable for 400 Series motherboards to addnew CPU support. CPU releases beyond “Zen 3” will require a newer
motherboard.

7.AMD continues to recommend that customers choose an AMD 500 Series
motherboard for the best performance and features with our new CPUs.

因為我不太專業 就請各位看原文 抱歉


There are still many details to iron out, but we’ve already started the
necessary planning. As we get closer to the launch of this upgrade path, you
should expect another blog just like this to provide the remaining details
and a walkthrough of the specific process.

儘管還有很多細節要處理 但是我們已經開始計畫了



At CES 2017, AMD made a commitment: we would support AMD Socket AM4 until
2020. We’ve spent the next three years working very hard to fulfill that
promise across four architectures, plus pioneering use of new technologies
like chiplets and PCIe® Gen 4. Thanks to your feedback, we are now set to
bring “Zen 3” to the AMD 400 Series chipsets. We’re grateful for your
passion and support of AMD’s products and technologies.

我們曾經承諾AM4會活到2020

我們花了三年滿足這個承諾

bla bla bla

謝謝各位的回覆 我們已經確定Zen 3會在400系列的板子上支援

我們很感謝各位的熱情與支持AMD的產品跟技術




We’ll talk again soon.

改天再聊


我記得有鄉民猜對了 馬上改口支援
好香啊

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jason840226 05/19 22:13轉彎歸轉彎，還是比硬幹好多了

※ 編輯: MorikonHase (163.25.119.77 臺灣), 05/19/2020 22:36:44

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Kenyon7421 05/19 22:14不好意思不太懂，這兩款型號主機板不是是本來就有支
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Kenyon7421 05/19 22:14援嗎？

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GGWPonLOL 05/19 22:14本來沒有要支援 只有500系列支援而已

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kimula01 05/19 22:14good. 我的B450i不用賣了

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pig 05/19 22:16之後推出的桌上型4000系列才是zen3

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pig 05/19 22:16現在的3000系列是zen2

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Kenyon7421 05/19 22:19原來我誤會了，我以為現在3系列就是zen3

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giancarlo82 05/19 22:20買C7H特價的爽到

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mayolane 05/19 22:20723的B450可以繼續用了嘻嘻

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a123444556 05/19 22:21不是說BIOS容量不夠 難不成bios介面要改成黑白嗎 XD

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pig 05/19 22:22就停止支援舊的 CPU 來空出空間啊

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tarry240 05/19 22:224000系列桌機用APU快出！！

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pig 05/19 22:23對照 x570 的話，應該就 1000 系列不支援了吧

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pig 05/19 22:25附帶說明一下 4000G APU 還是 zen2 哦

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dreamgirl 05/19 22:25X370敲碗

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pig 05/19 22:25要沒內顯的那批才會是 zen3

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Sswatt 05/20 19:12但現階段無法得知到底是哪些會支援

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