Re: [新聞] 賴清德投書華爾街日報 趙怡翔:總統該有
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本魯有訂WSJ啦
今天世界版頭版的標題是Taiwan
讓本56節錄出來給鄉民看看
Taiwan’s Impossible Choice: Be Ukraine or Hong Kong
https://tinyurl.com/2225ewsn
By Yaroslav Trofimov and Joyu Wang July 5, 2023 12:01 am ET
TAIPEI, Taiwan—People in Taiwan have been following every twist of the war
in Ukraine. But, while their sympathy for the Ukrainian cause is
near-universal, the conclusions for the island’s own future widely diverge.
台灣人都有在追烏俄戰爭
但是從中得到的教訓卻有很大分歧
To some, the takeaway is that even a seemingly invincible foe can be defeatedif a society stands firm, an inspiration for Taiwan’s own effort to resist a
feared invasion by China. Others draw the opposite lesson from the images of
smoldering Ukrainian cities. Anything is better than war, they say, and
Taiwan should do all it can to avoid provoking Beijing’s wrath, even if that
means painful compromises.
有人覺得只要全民團結
中國就打不下來
有人看烏克蘭的城市
覺得不要打仗比什麼都好
These two competing visions will play out in Taiwan’s presidential
elections, slated for January, and shape how the island democracy revamps itsdefenses as China’s military might expands. The soul-searching inside
Taiwan, and the determination with which it will strengthen its armed forces,is also bound to affect the extent to which the U.S. will get involved
militarily should Beijing try to capture the island, home to 24 million people—and most of the world’s advanced semiconductor production capacity.
這兩種看法會影響這次選舉
台灣人有多大決心擴充軍備
也要看米國爸爸會怎麼做
...
Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen has already moved to increase the length of
compulsory military service starting next year, to one year from four months,and is boosting military spending as Taipei purchases new weapons from the
U.S., such as hundreds of Harpoon antiship missiles. While Tsai isn’t
eligible to run again, the presidential candidate from her ruling party—
current Vice President Lai Ching-te—has similarly pledged to safeguard the
island’s autonomy and resist Beijing’s growing intimidation.
EE延長了兵役
然後賴神大概也會繼續這麼做
“I don’t think anybody rational could look at this and say dialogue is
going to change Xi or the CCP,” said Vincent Chao, a former
national-security official and Lai’s spokesman, referring to China’s
Communist Party. “They see the subjugation of Taiwan as part of their
national rejuvenation, as something inherently connected to their political
legitimacy. It’s incumbent upon any candidate to be realistic about the
situation.” Ukraine, he added, has given Taiwan a “brilliant lesson” in
how to defend itself—and how to build coalitions with like-minded
democracies.
趙怡翔覺得
跟習大大或是CCP溝通沒用
所以烏克蘭是很好的示範
告訴台灣要好好保護自己
The main opposition Nationalist Party, known as the Kuomintang, holds a
different view. “We want to talk to the Chinese. We believe that we can have
a dialogue with the Chinese. That will certainly de-escalate the tension, to
make sure no accidental war, and for sure no intentional war, happens,”
Kuomintang vice chairman Andrew Hsia said in an interview before departing
on a trip to China in June, his second this year.
KMT則說要跟對岸溝通
他們相信可以降低緊張的情勢
Ukraine’s tragedy has made an outreach to Beijing even more vital, he added:
“In the past we talked about war, but now for the first time we saw in our
living rooms, on television, all this destruction. Are we ready for that? I
don’t think we are, I don’t think we are that resilient.”
夏立言說
大家都聽過談過戰爭
但是他不覺得大家真的準備好了
The Kuomintang’s presidential candidate, Hou Yu-ih, pledged this week that
he would return the compulsory military service length to four months after
improving ties with Beijing.
侯侯縮短兵役也上WSJ了
....
While the U.S. has no binding obligation to defend Taiwan and has long
maintained a policy of strategic ambiguity on the issue, President Biden
repeatedly cautioned that, unlike in Ukraine, the U.S. military would
intervene directly should China attempt to seize the island by force. Before
American troops deploy, however, the island would have to resist the first
blows on its own. So far, despite recent improvements, it is far from ready,
many U.S. officials and analysts say.
雖然美國爸爸沒有義務保護台灣
但拜爺強調美國會介入台海戰役
前提是台灣要先能自己抵抗
只是美國的軍官跟分析師
都覺得台灣根本沒有準備好
“The Taiwanese have to be committed 100%, because if they are not, there is
no reason for the U.S. or any other nation to come to their aid,” said ret.
U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula, dean of the Mitchell Institute for
Aerospace Studies in Arlington, Va. “There needs to be a sense of urgency.
America is not going to spill the blood of her sons and daughters over Taiwanif the Taiwanese are not willing to wholeheartedly prosecute the defense of
their island and their people.”
美國前空軍司令說
台灣必須100%保證會打
不然美國人沒有理由犧牲美國人保護台灣
While augmented over the past year, Taiwan’s military budget is still only
2.4% of the GDP—compared with well over 3% for the U.S., Poland’s 4% and
about 5% in Israel. The professionalism and motivation of Taiwan’s military
are a particular concern, Western officials say. The island’s main officer
training school was originally established as Whampoa Military Academy in
southern China in the 1920s, with heavy reliance on Soviet instructors.
Outdated Soviet-style military culture and doctrine still persists in the
ranks, defense analysts say.
雖然這幾年台灣軍事預算有漲
但是還是很低
人家以色列或是波蘭都有4~5%
而且國軍的專業跟士氣都很差
黃埔那套都是蘇聯過時的教案
但現在還是拿來用
Despite the recent increase in the length of conscription, education
deferrals mean that most draft-age Taiwanese won’t serve the entire year
until 2028—and it remains unclear to what extent the current training of
draftees, which according to many soldiers produces few useful skills, will
be modernized.
然後雖然說兵役有延長
但是這些延長兵役的役男
五年內都不會入伍
Currently, most draftees spend their time cleaning floors and picking weeds
rather than learning how to repel Beijing’s People’s Liberation Army, said
ret. Adm. Lee Hsi-min, a former chief of Taiwan’s military who has become a
vocal critic of the island’s military preparedness.
李喜明說
大部分役男都在擦地板跟除草
“If you just do the same things for a year instead of four months, then you
have a problem and a bad reputation,” he said. “The problem is the training
content, not the training period. How you do it is much more important than
how long you do it.” The military says it is working to improve the training.
重點不在於役期長短
在於訓練內容是啥
Taiwan has also had trouble retaining its professional troops, including
highly trained Air Force pilots. Taiwan’s defense ministry said in a recent
report that roughly 20% of its career soldiers over the past five years have
decided to leave the military before their contracts were scheduled to end.
Just last year, more than 3,700 soldiers asked to quit, according to the
report.
志願役也有問題
過去幾年1/5的士兵決定提前退伍
“In the past, Taiwan’s civilians were not very close with our military
because our old military came from the outside, didn’t derive from inside
the country. There was a giant gap between civilian people and military guys,” said DPP lawmaker Wang Ting-yu, a senior member of the Taiwanese parliament’s defense committee.
“But I have to say this is an old situation,” he added, saying that, under
Tsai, Taiwan’s civilian-military relationship has transformed: “She made
the military realize you need to defend democracy.” The government, he said,
has increased pay for the troops and is modernizing the training programs, inpart by bringing in foreign instructors and sending some Taiwanese units for
exercises in the U.S.
王八千說
早期台灣人跟軍隊有隔閡
因為軍隊都是外國來的
但這是過去式
EE已經讓民眾了解到你要抗中保台
提高了預算也送人去美國受訓
These changes, however, have yet to translate into new attitudes among the
general public, where service in the armed forces holds little prestige or
appeal. Wang Chung-wei, a draftee who is heading to the military in the
coming weeks, said that he, like most young Taiwanese men, wasn’t looking
forward to the experience. “Not at all. It will be a total waste of time,”
he said, adding he would rather stay home and work in the family business. “It doesn’t matter to me if China takes over. Our families have arrived here
from China anyway.”
但這些改變並沒有讓大部分民眾改變態度
跟其他年輕人一樣
某位菜兵說他覺得當兵浪費時間
他寧願回家幫忙工作
他也不在乎是否被統一
反正他們全家之前也是從中國來的
Several other young people interviewed in Taipei’s Ximending shopping
district echoed the sentiment, saying they saw little point in sacrificing
their lives given China’s immense power.
很多西門町的年輕人
也不太想犧牲他們自己的時間
“The young people are the ones who don’t want unification with China,”
said ret. Lt. Gen. Chang Yan-ting, a former deputy commander of Taiwan’s
air force. “But if you want independence, you need to fight, and they also
don’t want to fight. Therein is the conflict.”
年輕人不想跟中國統一
但是你要獨立你要作戰
但是你又不想作戰
這就是衝突所在
節錄一些隨便翻一翻啦
後面還有提到黑熊學院(Kuma Academy)
有興趣的人可以上網自己找全文
簡單來說啦
現況就是台灣軍備鳥到爆炸
兵役延長也沒啥鳥用
年輕人不要統一但不想當兵
美國人都不太看好台灣現在的狀況
台灣是要變成香港還是烏克蘭
就等著總統大選看看
獨立報導跟讀者投書
到底哪個客觀
大家自己看著辦啦
※ 引述《nightwing (夏日浮雲)》之銘言:
: 1.媒體來源:
: NOWnews 今日新聞
: 2.記者署名:
: 邱新博
: 3.完整新聞標題:
: 賴清德投書華爾街日報 趙怡翔:總統該有的高度
: 4.完整新聞內文:
: https://i.imgur.com/S6ksfN7.jpg
: 記者邱新博/台北報導
: 2023-07-05 14:36:53
: 《華爾街日報》今(5)日刊登民進黨總統參選人賴清德投
: 書,以「我保衛台海和平的計畫」為題,敘述未來將全力強
: 化國防嚇阻力、提升經濟安全、展開民主夥伴合作,並維護
: 兩岸現狀,透過「4個支柱」帶來台海的永續和平與國家的
: 繁榮。台北市議員、賴辦發言人趙怡翔對此表示,這就是總
: 統候選人該有的高度。
: 趙怡翔分析,賴清德選擇上外籍媒體投稿的原因很簡單,華
: 爾街日報不但是美國發行量最大報紙,也是世界領袖的重要
: 國際平台,包括美國總統拜登任內以三度投稿華爾街日報,
: 印度總理、日本首相,甚至近日烏克蘭總統澤倫斯基也都在
: 此平台撰文,爭取外界的支持。
: 趙怡翔說,在台灣面臨的急迫區域環境之下,能向國際傳達
: 訊息,與世界意見領袖互動甚為重要。無論綠藍白的立場為
: 何,我相信,一個面向國際的台灣,能登上國際舞台的總統
: ,這對台灣只有加分效果,對保障台海安全也有貢獻。
: 趙怡翔表示,可惜的是,另外兩位選舉對手對此概念似乎比
: 較陌生。這包括侯友宜至今未說清楚自己兩岸立場與國際合
: 作的方針,在兵役議題上更為反覆不明。柯文哲則是選擇與
: 美國學者公開吵架,並進行連串的外交凸槌。在台灣最需要
: 國際連結的同時,我們不能讓他們帶台灣走上回頭路。
: 相對而言,賴清德的政策越來越明朗。要如何改革國防以嚇
: 阻中國武力威脅,透過多元貿易及新興產業的配置強化經濟
: 安全,與民主國家建立更緊密的合作,並以穩定且具有原則
: 的兩岸領導力維持兩岸現狀,這都是賴清德的清楚方針。
: 趙怡翔指出,選舉還有6個月,相信賴清德發布這篇文章的
: 原因之一,也是希望將選舉態勢重新聚焦在國家當前的利益
: 與挑戰之上。拚國際,總比拚著排椅子重要。這篇文章受於
: 字數的限制,不可能涵蓋到所有政策細節與內容,但重點就
: 是要引起理性的政策討論,為更好的國際論述而努力。
: 5.完整新聞連結 (或短網址)不可用YAHOO、LINE、MSN等轉載媒體:
: https://www.nownews.com/news/6189025
: 6.備註:
: https://i.imgur.com/cYy2tf5.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/fIX0GJs.jpg
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又只想知道花了多少錢投書的?
國庫出錢還是賴競辦出錢?
上一個國際新聞 是台灣人餵小孩子吃巴比妥耶
格局高過柯館昌
怎麼沒寫到功德說義務役不用上戰場
有民進黨執政台灣直接爛光,只會加速統
一啦,蔡英文就史上最爛,有蔡英文才知
道馬英九做的多好,幹
廢文,台灣的選舉本來就是選台灣人還是選
中國人
其他都是廢話
執政黨又他媽偽裝成在野黨
趙怡翔覺得跟習大大或是CCP溝通沒用
這是在打臉阿德想跟習大大吃飯嗎?
也在浪費國家納稅金,廢物狗党
又在...
賴fool又不是真心想溝通 只想蹭一頓飯
我以為這id 超挺民進狗党,以為是側
翼呢!
還是一位偽裝很好的側翼?!
海空軍至少還能打吧...對吧...
靠北,党真的相信嘴喊抗中,靠爸保台
,神功護體,百毒不侵?
溝通沒用然後賴功德想跟習維尼吃飯
前線作戰的一定不會有米國人
一堆白藍教徒超挺共產黨!!
樓上在供三小
這文章看起來是在野黨寫的吧
這確實是我知道的現實
藍白想要統一嘻嘻
樓上就只會二分法 可憐
去死吧賴清德該死的畜牲
說個笑話:國防立委林昶佐
賴清德小孩先回台上戰場擋子彈 死了
賴畜糞稿還不就老調重彈,有屁用
再叫我
記得總統視察單位的時候會喊我愛你就好
目前看來無解 但是中國也還沒做好準備
閃尿 九萬該當兵了 讓美國阿爸看看台灣年
幾年後真的被輾壓了執政黨會被迫承認共識
輕人的決心
訓練的問題柯有講過啊
老外真的看別人的事情很精準…
DPP先講明到底是守衛哪個國家再來談吧
外界也在質疑台灣 軍隊不專業 民眾不夠
決斷 這些疑慮沒有清除 將影響介入程度
年輕人不想當中國人這一點,如果是10年前
我確定,現在?
黨內公職吃盡中華民國豆腐 黨羽還在那邊只
當台灣不當中華民國的兵
那lie cheater 是要吃什麼飯?
趙已經用他的表現告訴大家,他就是個超
級草包
陸軍負責唱歌給總統聽就好
民進黨搞對立分裂,搞得一團散沙,再來
炒芒果感有用嗎?
趙就dpp主流想法,不接觸不談判不妥協,把
兩岸關係打壞再拿來換成選票,自己早就移
民美國管你台灣去死
哥布林黨以前怎麼罵國軍的 還有臉講
如果當兵好的話 閃尿 9w早當了
跟老公小孩關係不好會少了精神支柱
講這麽多,民進黨的人當兵了嗎
芒果乾賣起來
老招了,用國外的媒體再回台賣芒果乾(哈欠
上次幼稚園造謠也沒被罰
這個記者火力全開,懷疑有來台灣做深
度訪談
不進議會還買新聞說有風骨才搞笑
結果現在是黑金教父
七年了現在你跟我說還沒準備好都年輕人的
錯?
先說投書花的是納稅人的錢嗎
27樓 共產是指控制大多媒體的那個黨派嗎
?
台灣當然不想打仗,難道美國就想跟中國打仗
?蔡英文政府根本沒想抗中保台,要不是美國
施壓,蔡哪會增加軍購跟延長兵役?民進黨都
忙著從國庫搞錢而已
大部分役男都在擦地板跟除草www
推文一堆柯粉好可憐
看推文就知道美國老爸的擔心不無道理!
投給塔綠班大家去打仗 嘻嘻
推文一堆塔綠斑好悲哀
幫忙翻譯國外報紙?很值得推
你翻個屁 明明就有中文版
現在我也不想打啊,817之後就覺得台灣
好像喜歡跟對岸一樣生活
當過兵就知道訓練沒有想像的操,還很多
送去西點軍校的軍官回來沒多久就自願退
伍
國防部逼走自己培養的通訊戰人才,什麼
訓練根本笑話
爆
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