Re: [討論] 觸發review投籃是否踩線的條件?
最終版本(應該是)
https://official.nba.com/rule-no-13-instant-replay/
官方規則 IRS條例
其中
Section I—Instant Replay Review Triggers
觸發IRS的條件
其中
6.Officials are not reasonably certain at any time during a game whether (i) a successful field goal was scored correctly as a 2-point or 3-point field goal, or (ii) in the case of a called shooting foul, whether the player was
attempting a 2-point or 3-point field goal; provided that the Replay Center Official did not trigger instant replay to review these matters as permitted by Section I-b(1)
白話就是
裁判在任何時候沒辦法確定是兩分或三分時都可以看重播
或是被犯規時沒辦法確定(略)
這邊會有個疑問
因為這球基本上沒有兩分的空間
怎麼會符合啟動條件
因為
Section II—Reviewable Matters
他寫在下面了
可檢查的事項
其中f項提到
f.If an instant replay review is triggered as described in Section I-a(6) above, the Replay Center Official and on-court official(s) would review the video to determine the following issues:
如果因為Section I-a(6)(就是上面說的那條)
啟動IRS 則可以檢查
其中第三點
3.If the shot was timely, whether the shooter committed a boundary line
violation or the ball touched out-of-bounds prior to entering the basket or, in the case of a foul, whether the player fouled committed a boundary line
violation. For purposes of this review, the Replay Center Official would look only at the position of the player’s feet at the moment they last touched the floor immediately prior to (or, if applicable, during) the release of the
shot or the foul (as applicable).
如果出手即時(就是沒有超過時間啦)
投籃者是否犯規或球進網前觸及邊線(略)
所以是可以的
至於為什麼啟動條件沒寫到
但啟動後可以檢視
窩不知道 我英文不好
但總之就是
看起來引用這條來看踩線應該是一種常態且可被接受的
只是字面上看起來好像怪怪的而已
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晚了就不要了
所以是ham自己搞自己?
沒有搞自己 就我常講的那個例子 金塊對應該是小牛 第二節末對手三分踩線 中場休息完 回來才說扣三分 時間倒回第二節0.2秒 然後被金塊投進Logo shot 慶祝五秒開始第三節比賽 這就是一個一樣沒call然後大概是引用6的例子
晚了就不要了
這判決跟計時器搞死我糊了,居然還是在主場
Le 踩線
規則是用來打破的
推規則解釋
跟灰狼那場一樣有沒有踩線再吵一次
你7重看一下,是最後兩分鐘之內才能看
前一篇裁判有說是根據II-f(3)看
II是改判原則 如果是f那就是引用6 我是感覺用6檢視怪怪的 因為那球就沒有兩分的空間 字面上也只有判定2/3分球沒有給你判定0分出界 阿裁判說是就是吧 也不是說不過去的事
之內跟之前是完全相反的意思唉XD
whether a called out-of-bounds in fact occurred during the last two minutes of the fourth period or last two minutes of any overtime period(s). 沒看反吧? 吧? 最後兩分鐘要Call才能看阿(然後後面說被取消了)
照規則來說 兩分內沒吹出界是不是也不能被挑戰 因
為沒吹?
欸 不是 字面上是說隨時可以觸發
整場都可以使用教練挑戰去看有沒有出界
連主場計時器都來搞 慘啊
你前面寫的看起來是兩分鐘以外的就沒call就能看,這
跟規則上寫的“最後兩分鐘”且“有call”才能看不是
同一個概念吧?對,也改過了,所以沒有特別重要,只
是想說這球在2:09所以不管是照未改前原本規則未在2
:00內還是改完後因教練沒有挑戰,I-7都不適用吧?
等一下 你是對的 但我先 拉個肚子
對呀,我也記得原本寫因為這規則不能看,大概是沒
注意到其實不是2分內吧
那借問一下為什麼green踩線出界卻是需要湖人方挑戰
呢?
這感覺確實有bug 如果時間以內不能看有沒有出界
Osman提的I-6應該是官方說法了,只是覺得除非每球三
分都看3或2這理由給的很牽強,其實我贊成把投球時有
沒有出界加入I-6讓replay center去看
修正了 7確實跟"判定出界"無關 是"判定出界後"的事 那就變得很玄吶
但裁判原本想看的是有沒有踩到三分線
那發現原來出界了 這三分到底該不該給(不能看是否
出界的情況下)
Green出界應該原本是吹AR出界(Green往AR身上砸)、
湖人挑戰才重播看到Green先出界?我有點忘了
對 是挑戰球權 不是挑戰有沒有出界 阿只是 挑戰球權就會伴隨是誰先出界/違例這種事
看3或2時發現出界是可以給0分,條款是Osman提的II-f
(3)
哦哦 那就沒事啦 雖然好像還是有BUG
我再修一次
所以就算沒有挑戰但是裁判對任一判決有疑慮可以自行
啟動這樣嗎
沒 就還是要看啟動條件 能啟動的才能啟動
啊,沒看完整,歹勢
I-7那開頭你寫的是無法確定球權或(最後兩分鐘內有沒
有出界),我的理解是(無法確定球權或有沒有出界)在
最後兩分鐘內,對前面"無法確定球權"有沒有吃到後面
附加的兩分鐘限制解讀不同XD
反正結論上第7項現在不重要了 隨便ㄅ
所以這到底有沒有bug啊?
字面看起來有 但程式跑得動 所以就沒去修 這樣
你太專業了 姆咪會不高興
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