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CuLiZn5566
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時間推噓38 推:39 噓:1 →:28

你也省略太多了吧

節錄並簡單翻譯如下

全部文字都是從這篇文章來

Does Taiwan’s Military Stand a Chance Against China? Few Think So.

By Joyu Wang and Alastair Gale
Oct. 25, 2021 11:05 am ET

The concern that China might try to seize Taiwan is preoccupying American
military planners and administration officials. Few of them think Taiwan’s
military could hold the line.

Soldiers, strategists and government officials in Taiwan and the U.S. say theisland’s military is riven with internal problems, many of which have built
up over years of calm and economic prosperity and now are eating away at
Taiwan’s ability to deter China.

Among the most pressing concerns are poor preparation and low morale among
the roughly 80,000 Taiwanese who are conscripted each year and the nearly 2.2million reservists.

Xiao Cheng-zhi, a 26-year-old from central Taiwan, said his four months of
basic training that ended last year mainly involved sweeping leaves, moving
spare tires and pulling weeds. Aside from some marksmanship training, he
said, his classes were meaningless.

蕭承志(本56猜的啦)說四個月的訓練都是掃樹葉跟搬輪胎

很沒意義


Mr. Xiao dismissed his cohorts as strawberry soldiers, a term used in Taiwan
to describe young people raised by overprotective parents who bruise easily.
While he said he is willing to serve, he doubted the island would stand much
chance against China’s People’s Liberation Army.

這些菜兵都被叫成草莓冰

雖然他願意當兵

但是他不確定能不能打贏


....

In interviews, Taiwanese soldiers and reservists expressed concerns about
training and readiness. One said he watched American war movies during
training after running out of useful things to do. Another said he spent a
lot of time reading and drawing, and that there wasn’t much to worry about
anyway. Public opinion polls and interviews suggest many Taiwanese expect theU.S. to take charge if serious danger arises.

有人訓練是看美國戰爭電影

有人是在那邊看書跟畫畫

如果開打

滿多台灣人期待米國爸爸會跳下來

....


Two young men described how they had put on extra weight to get disqualified
from military conscription, a practice some Taiwanese youths say is common.
One said he stuffed himself with large meals every four hours for a month,
including McDonald’s combo meals, to gain enough pounds to be exempted.


兩個覺青告訴記者怎麼閃兵

一個做法是狂吃邁噹噹吃成肥宅



Grant Newsham, a retired U.S. Marines colonel who spent 2019 in Taiwan
studying the island’s defenses, said Taiwan has a solid core of well-trained
troops and “superb officers that are ready to fight.” Other military
experts compare Taiwan’s top pilots and officers to the world’s best.

But the Taiwanese military is underfunded, and its reserves system is a
shambles, Mr. Newsham said. It needs improved pay packages, and it could
become far more effective by training with the U.S. and its allies, he said.


有美國前軍官(好像上了蠻多次台灣新聞)

說台灣軍隊訓練有素

但是國防部沒錢

...

An unpublished government report commissioned by Taiwan’s defense ministry,
which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, found a culture of paperwork
that cut into combat training. It said “endless misconduct and mismanagement
” had weakened young people’s willingness to join the forces.


台灣政府雖然說要改善

但是從一個內部流出來的報告

他們說

"endless misconduct and mismanagement" (很直白就不翻譯了)

讓大家都不想當兵


Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense didn’t respond to requests for
comments. The president’s office said it doesn’t comment on military
matters.

針對這件事情

國防部不回應

總統府也不評論

Taiwan still has some advantages, including a tricky coastline that would be
hard for PLA forces to swarm. Also, there are doubts about battle-readiness
in China, which hasn’t fought a war since a brief conflict with Vietnam in
1979.


雖然前面說了很多喪氣話

台灣還是有一些優勢

海岸線很崎嶇

另外中國大概也沒有準備好開打

因為他們從1979跟越南pk後就沒再打了




中間一大段是說美國的兩難就先跳過



Ronan Fu, a former second lieutenant at the Taiwanese Reserve Command and
assistant research fellow at the Institute of Political Science at Academia
Sinica, a state-funded think tank, questions whether young people have a
strong enough sense of duty. While training has improved somewhat recently,
he said, “adult men in Taiwan don’t actually want to fight.”


中研院的傅澤民說台灣人其實不想打仗

A 2019 survey found around half of Taiwanese would be willing to fight to
defend the island, but polls also show most don’t expect they will ever have
to.

2019的問卷發現

過半台灣人願意保衛家園

但是不覺得會需要這麼做


....

Recruitment also has been undermined by the view that China wouldn’t invade
because it would be too damaging for its international standing, or because
nations such as the U.S. would intervene.

“If China dares to make any trouble, wouldn’t the rest of the world issue
sanctions against it?” said Ian Su, a 25-year-old insurance broker from the
central county of Changhua who trained as a signal operator last year.


這邊是在說台灣人覺得中國不會打

一個彰化蘇姓25歲保險業務員說

如果中國會打

世界就會制裁他


“Our hard-fought freedom is not for granted,” said Mr. Su, who works in
construction. Many in Taiwan don’t realize how fragile its liberty is, he
said, because “the military is so far away from the people.”



最後一段本56覺得的重點就是

台灣人不知道自由是很脆弱的

因為軍事離台灣人很遠很遠



※ 引述《moocow (void)》之銘言:
: 同一天晚上 WSJ頭條
: https://www.facebook.com/WSJ/posts/10161433608493128
: Does Taiwan’s Military Stand a Chance Against China? Few Think So.
: 台灣的軍隊有機會對抗中國嗎? 很少人這樣認為
: Poor preparation and low morale are pressing concerns for Taiwan’s armed
: forces. One conscript said his basic training mainly involved sweeping
: leaves, moving spare tires and pulling weeds.
: 準備不足與低落的士氣是台灣部隊迫切的問題.
: 一個役男說他的基本訓練大多是掃地,搬輪胎,跟拔草....
: (以下略...有訂閱的請自己看..Zz )


整體來說

與其說是丟臉丟到國外

不如說這篇文章認為

台灣很多人認為不會開戰

所以大家都不去當兵

不去當兵的理由很多

一方面認為是威權遺毒

另外一方面是當了沒有用

文章也提到政府結構性的問題

因為軍隊的管理很鳥

但中國的威脅仍然在那邊

美國也有自己的問題不一定會出兵

所以真的開打台灣人的勝算不高




整體來說是一篇入木三分的文章

並不是丟臉丟到國外的問題而已

本56是覺得很中肯啦

不過台灣人不就是喜歡用筆桿抗中保台

閃兵逃兵都能成為民意代表

那麼會有這個結果也不太意外啊@@

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本56有訂閱啦 但是不太好全部PO上來 就節錄大家看看就好 聯合報那個其實也是稍微和諧了一點 原文比較辛辣XDDD

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