Re: [討論] 2021 NBA歷史百大球員排行

※ 引述《iammatrix ()》之銘言：
: ※ 引述《rfvtgb (........)》之銘言：
: : 前面我已經有大約的論述,我想MVP是第一大獎沒爭議
: : 得分王如果這麼重要就會幫助你取得MVP.
: : MJ為何無法用得分王x10去輾壓別人,
: : 重點是因為他不是10xMVP,若是MJ的得分王都有幫他轉換為MVP,
: : 那重點就是10xMVP而不是10x得分王.這道理就和LBJ的亞軍一樣啊,
: 你這是在詭辯啊
: 得分王跟MVP是分別獨立的獎項，判斷有各自的標準。
: 甚麼拿了十個得分王就要10個MVP來證明得分王的重要性
: 這種也講得出來。
: 大聯盟打最多全壘打或是打點最多的一定是MVP嗎?
: 難道判斷MVP的標準只有得分嗎? 當然複雜多了。
: 得分王是一個相對MVP客觀的項目，沒有經過記者、媒體的好惡評斷。
: 表示球員在一個以得分高低判斷輸贏職業比賽中，
: 實打實的在一個賽季中平均得分贏過同聯盟幾百個競爭的球員。
: 就算大家再討厭哈登要飯，他就是有辦法要飯要到得分王。
: 更別說有人拿下10次得分王，生涯30分也是史上最高。
: 今年咖哩拿下再度拿下得分王，國外體育網站NBC也寫了一篇特別報導
: Steph Curry joins exclusive list of scoring champ legends
: https://reurl.cc/3aW55l
: When it comes to NBA scoring kings, this group is royalty.
: Many players have led the league in scoring, few have done so more than once,
: and one has done it 10 times.
: The newest member of that group of certified bucket-getters is Steph Curry,: who on Sunday became just the 18th player in NBA history to win multiple
: scoring titles.
: Curry had 46 points against the Grizzlies to finish the season with an
: average of 32.0 points per game to win his second scoring title. That was
: enough to edge the Washington Wizards’ Bradley Beal, who averaged 31.3
: points and missed three of the last four games of the season.
: Steph joins an exclusive list that includes names like Michael, Kobe, Wilt
: and these other legends….
: 人家說咖哩加入得分王連兩次的傳奇行列，你說官方沒獎項所以不重要。
: NBA沒有正式獎項的很多好嗎...但是重要的也是會記錄。
: https://www.usab.com/basketball/players/mens/j/jordan-michael.aspx
: Michael Jordan NBA Highlights:
: 其中一項 Led the NBA in scoring in 10 seasons, a NBA record, and tied Wilt
: Chamberlain's record of seven consecutive scoring titles.
: 得分王是可以不用拿獎，但是是一個球員生涯一項重要的紀錄，
: 認證這個球員的得分實力。
: 去看一堆球員的比較，第一個拿出來比的不就是得分平均多少、累積多少?
: 再來看一下CBS的排名 NBA 史上TOP 15
: https://reurl.cc/xG2Eez
: 1. Michael Jordan
: 1984-93, 1995-98, 2002-04: 30.1 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 5.3 apg,
: 214.0 Win Shares, 5-time MVP, 11-time All-NBA, 6-time champion
: The name says it all. The statistics do, as well.
: Add on:
: six-time NBA Finals MVP, 10-time scoring leader,
: nine-time All-Defensive teamer. And so on. The GOAT.
: 2. LeBron James
: 2003-present: 27.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 7.4 apg,
: 236.1 Win Shares, 4-time MVP, 15-time All-NBA, 4-time champion
: James has earned his spot here, and he may not be done. Three more full
: seasons at last year's output, a daunting but not impossible task for a
: 35-year-old all-time athlete in an era of superstars who often defy time,
: would see him pass Kareem as the game's all-time leader in points. He already
: has the eighth-most assists in league history. He could become the first
: player to be a Finals MVP with three different teams. And more rings, of
: course, remain within grasp. An all-timer still carving out his place in the: game, with only one spot to go.
: 看出兩個傳奇球員描述的分別了嗎?
: LBJ就沒拿過多次得分王，敘述就不會注重在上面。(原文3冠改為4冠)
: 喬丹就是有本事拿下10得分王、9防守隊。
: 同處一個TIER的上下級別，人家有甚麼大獎項、特殊紀錄你沒有，
: 那就是別人比你高一檔的本錢了。

沒錯 完全認同這篇的觀點
當大家同處一個級別時，大獎項跟特殊紀錄就很重要了

那麼nba最特殊的紀錄是什麼呢？
我想就是打敗史上最強隊伍還拿到final mvp吧
那史上最強隊伍是哪一隊呢？
我們不憑感覺、印象，成熟的大人都用數據說話
以勝敗場來看，史上最強隊伍就是73勇，毫無疑問
而Lebron 率隊打敗這支最強隊伍，除了拿到fmvp外還同時創下

1.史上第一支1-3落後還能在冠軍賽逆轉的隊伍，打敗的還是最強隊伍，心裡素質突破天際

2.冠軍戰五項數據皆是兩隊最高，比史上最強球隊的球員還高

MVP、冠軍、得分王...等獎項年年有
但打敗史上最強73勝隊伍還能創下這些特殊紀錄的只有Lebron 一人，MJ從沒辦到過，甚至可能後無來者

因此得證Lebron =GOAT

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出社會了嗎，專業人士都是用數據說話喔，73勝是史上勝率最高球隊，那就是最強球隊唷 ，請不要憑感覺 嘻嘻 07/25 00:34

07/25 00:40